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• Giglio: Heels will not run the table
It’s an early guess, but I think North Carolina is going to finish the regular season at 11-1 — maybe 10-2 if things go poorly or 9-3 if the roof totally collapses.
The roof isn’t going collapse, though. The Tar Heels, as established by their win over Connecticut on Saturday in Chapel Hill, have way too much personnel to fall victim to another big injury or two. The thing we know now, but sort of suspected in preseason, is that Butch Davis has added enough talent on what John Bunting left behind to turn the Heels into a legitimate top-20 national program.
It helps that the schedule is favorable, of course. But the schedule was favorable from the start, which is why the team was picked to finish No. 2 in the Coastal Division. What we’ve learned since is that Davis’ staff can coach ‘em up, plug in quarterbacks, and develop defensive talent far beyond the normal program curve.
But even at 11-1 overall and 7-1 in the conference, that may not be enough to get Carolina into the conference championship game. Virginia Tech (4-1 overall, 2-0 ACC), which whipped Carolina in Chapel Hill on Sept. 20, may not lose another game, either. An Oct. 18 test at Boston College will be difficult. So might be the following week’s game at Florida State.
Otherwise, the Hokies have to go to Miami on Nov. 13, and then win in Blacksburg against Maryland (Nov. 6), Duke (Nov. 22) and Virginia (Nov. 29).
For the ACC, there’s a big potential upside, however. If the Heels can finish 11-1, even without reaching the title game in Tampa, Fla. on Dec. 6 against the Atlantic Division winner, they should be a prime pick for a second BCS game. That’s really what the conference has wanted all along since the expansion to 12 teams.
The fly in the soup could be Boston College, which goes to UNC on Oct. 25. The Eagles aren’t all that good across the board, but Steve Logan and Eagles QB Chris Crane are starting to get in tune. Even with preseason All-ACC tight end Ryan Purvis and top wide receiver Brandon Robinson sidelined by injuries in the fourth quarter at N.C. State, Crane either ran or passed the Wolfpack into submission.
“We’re not great by anyone’s definition. But we might be getting good enough to be a bother people,” Logan said after the game.
Those words are not what any opposing team in the ACC want to hear.
Caulton Tudor has worked for The News & Observer or The Raleigh Times for more than 30 years.
Comments
enjoyspy
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 21:28 — besttiffanyonlineHe who would do good to another must do it in minute particulars; general good is the plea of the scoundrel , hypocrite and flatterer.
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Thanks a lot folks for
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 04:16 — tolo87Thanks a lot folks for this.
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Silence
Sat, 10/11/2008 - 18:33 — Big D (not verified)I know that the real rabid State fans will have something obnoxious to say but we should hear silence from certain Irish fans.
Jusssst a bit outside...
Thu, 10/09/2008 - 02:02 — Coach Roach (not verified)UNC won't beat Georgia Tech, and they'll find a way to screw the pooch in one of the others. Still, at 9-3, it would be a very respectable showing for the Tar Babies. They'll surely enjoy a bowl somewhere outside Charlotte.
nah
Wed, 10/08/2008 - 12:08 — Anonymous (not verified)11-1......... only if hell freezes over.
Strength of schedule is a
Wed, 10/08/2008 - 11:27 — Anonymous (not verified)Strength of schedule is a huge factor in determining who goes to BCS bowl. Yes UNC beat the pants off of Conn, but who has Conn played that's worth anything? Everybody is talking about Boston College being a challenge, well might I remind you that NC State took that game to the wire. Let Nate Irving get healthy and some other key players in the coming weeks, add to that the intensity of a rivalry...who knows what will happen? Not that I expect the Pack to post up a whole lot of a challenge given the injury problem and depth issues, but if you're going to give BC some props then you have to consider that. Anyhow, I repeat, UNC hasn't, save for the Hokies, and doesn't play a team worth a whole lot on the remaining schedule. Sure is nice to dream though. Go Pack
Just trying to put Tudor's post count up front
Tue, 10/07/2008 - 21:16 — UNCAlumnusmission accomplished (for now)
11-1; 10-2; 9-3...maybe
Tue, 10/07/2008 - 14:11 — Micah (not verified)11-1; 10-2; 9-3...maybe based on the lame schedule the holes play. What an absolutely pathetic schedule.
Well played...
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 22:56 — AnonymousTudor, if you get paid by the number of comments you get posted to the site ... well played, sir. You are a genius.
Lost Objectivity
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 15:47 — Anonymous (not verified)Tudor's 11-1 prediction confirms that he is dating Butch Davis and has lost all objectivity.
Offense isn't good enough
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:34 — Anonymous (not verified)Offense isn't good enough for 11-1. Our D will carry us most games, but we really can't move the ball all that well. Sexton will get better as he develops more confidence, but we're still missing our starting QB. Our D won the game on Saturday.
Excuse me, let me correct myself. Bruce Carter won the game on Saturday.
Offense
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 15:04 — Big D (not verified)UNC's offense is pretty good and I think that they are just about to turn the corner to dominate. If Cam continues to improve this can only help UNC having to good QB. Yes Cam, made a couple of errors but hey guys he is human. I noticed several costly mistakes that Yates makes every game he plays that drives me crazy but guess what? He is human and is still a very good player. The O- line is starting to open up holes a little better and they need to continue to improve... I like the new sophisticated blocking scheme Coach Davis used in the UCONN game. Also don't let the stats from the Conn game fool you... they camped on the UCONN side of the field due to great defense and special teams play. The offense didn't have to put up huge numbers because they seemed to almost live in the Red Zone. It almost appeared at times that the defense and special teams played so well that the offense didn't have a real chance to get a rhythm. The offense I believe is good enough but 11-1 is pretty ambitious.
Heels.
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:29 — charles77I am a huge State fan, but I could very well see this Carolina team end up 10-2. The rest of their schedule is very winnable. My 'Pack has way too many issues on both sides of the ball to take down the 'Heels. But, you have to say Butch has done a great job early on, but I think this shows you how John Bunting left this program in good shape, and now Butch is molding this talent. On the other hand you see just how in shambles Amato left State with depth at key positions. Why do you think Amato had trouble beating UNC? Bunting outcoached Amato every time, except with Rivers. Butch Davis and Carolina will be very good in about another year. Next year they will be very good, look how well they are doing so far this year. I believe in TOB, and his staff, I think we are going to have some kinda of football between State/Carolina in next few years. Both these coaches know how to win, period. Please Heels beat Notre Dame.
Go 'Pack!!!
11-1 is a stretch, no doubt,
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:14 — DUHheel (not verified)11-1 is a stretch, no doubt, however the great equalizer is turnovers. the first thing to change about a team like UNC is the turnover thing, BD has done that except for a few minutes of the VPI game, if the team can contionue winning that battle they will be ahead of the curve on that 11-1 prediction. the other fcator is sexton, he didn't play lights out vs Uconn,but he didn't have to, the jury is still out on whether he has turned the corner or if he reverts back to his 06 form. these 2 factors are the biggest in determining the rest of the games, win the TO battle and sexton manage the game and who knows? The third is the running game they seem to be making progress and if they continue that will be 3rd factor. Fb is simple game really, run the ball, stop the run, win the TO battle and special teams and ya got yourself a pretty good team, can the Heels do all those every game, i doubt it, so I see as many as 3 more losses just because the Heels are not that good, YET.
The Irish- What a Joke.
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 12:52 — Anonymous (not verified)I get a kick out of these Irish fans talking smack. They havent been relevant in 20 years but apparently their fanbase hasnt noticed yet. Either that or they're simply delusional. In any event, UNC will easlity lay the wood to them.
Note to Irish fan: everybody else thinks you're a joke.
Better hope NC can run the
Thu, 10/09/2008 - 18:21 — Anonymous (not verified)Better hope NC can run the ball and get up a couple of scores. A close game in the 4th qtr putting the game on the quarterbacks gives ND the upper hand.
The writer is a Dook fan
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:51 — Anonymouz (not verified)The writer is a Dook fan trying to jinx us...I see 9-3...everyone makes mistakes....11-1 possible? of course. We already played the 2 best teams we will face VT and @ Miami....should be 5-0, even the VT fans I know agree with that, 3 fluke calls and a hurt QB cost us.
Caulton, welcome to college football
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:46 — Irish fan (not verified)Mr. Tudor,
After a lull in regional college football, you now have interest again. That's great. Mr. Davis is already putting a better product on the field for the Tar Heels.
However, it appears you haven't been tuning into NBC on Saturdays this year......the Irish are much improved as well. And although UNC is now #22 in the nation (strength of schedule notwithstanding), you owe the Irish at least a mention in your pollyanna column. The mere fact you didn't, well.......enjoy the game this Saturday.
This is Notre Dame. We deserve your respect.
"This is Notre Dame. We
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:01 — Anonymous (not verified)"This is Notre Dame. We deserve your respect." As a ND lifer, we will get respect when we beat a quality team like UNC on the road. After last year's worthless performance we deserve no respect, so keep your glib comments to yourself.
Irish fan
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:00 — gvillegatrget real fella. Rocket "ain't" ain't coming out the tunnel this saturday and neither is Lou "Granny" Holtz.
I dont even know where to begin, so i'll just say this is not 1988. you havent won a bowl game in 10 tries. besides Mishitigan, you are the least threatenable "name" team out there. (ohio st third!)
enjoy getting you arse whopped up and down Keenan Stadium all day long come saturday.
you are going to have to get in line if you want to get that respect you had back when you were in high school. you'll not get it here at all!
Hubris unchecked
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:18 — JPDOhioAlthough I agree that no Notre Dame fan should be demanding respect yet, I do believe the Irish have improved and will be competitive in Chapel Hill. And, just to be clear, I am no fan of Notre Dame.
As you know, I am also no fan of UNC, but I do believe they are for real this year and will get better each year if Butch sticks around. But this bandwagon is just getting too full. I am more in the Giglio camp than the Tudor camp, which still means they are better than I thought they would be this year.
And, just to remove any remaining credibility that I may have (in my own small mind at least), if the Wolfpack can get healthy by the time they travel to Chapel Hill, they will give your Tar Heels all they can handle and perhaps prove Tudor wrong and Giglio right.
JPD
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:42 — gvillegatrits one thing to say 11-1 and another one to go and do 11-1.
I believe everyone knows there is another loss or two out there. But, I'd take the odds on there NOT being one only b/c it would pay out at 20-1 or somewhere in the neighborhood.
realistically, UNC will be favored in every game here on out. so it can be done.
Personally, I fear the UVa game the most.
UVa
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 19:25 — JPDOhioBelieve it or not, I was thinking the same thing when I saw the schedule. Those are the games that bite you, as opposed to the rivalry games.
I'm no expert, I'm and American
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 21:24 — UNCAlumnusIf UNC loses again, I'm thinking it may be GT. Sure, it's at home and UNC will be gettin' better. My fear is so will GT. That said, I "expect" UNC to win every game they play (with my heart atleast).
As for ND, it doesn't really matter if the fans respect the dome. I'm pretty doggone sure Butch Davis will have the team giving respect where it's warranted. I think it will be a fun atmosphere and good game Saturday. I expect UNC to win with my head and heart in this one, though.
11-1
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 09:45 — george32during spring and preseaon practice we all would have loved a 9-3 record a year earlier than
predicted. nd has talent and youth. how do you figure mardlyand's split personality? bc okay. next year will be great although miami is getting better fast too. carolina could no more have kept mack brown from texas or the dolphins kept saban from alabama than any school except duke, ucla and maybe ku and uk could keep unc from hiring it's mens basketball coach. the texas endowment dwarfs ours and they will do what it takes to get the football coach. brown was great here and i appreciate what he did, i just wish our ad had conducted a truly national search instead of hiring torbush.
Ole Caulton Tudor sure does
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 08:29 — Mark James (not verified)Ole Caulton Tudor sure does know how to start a message board thread doesn't he? 11-1 possible yes. I love the Heels and hope they can accomplish this. However, we have Notre Dame this Saturday. Lets beat them and then work on the next game. I hate speculation.
If the wins keep coming, then things will work out. As far as those chiming in on this discussion from "redneck ville", you guys sure have problems!
"redneck ville"
Tue, 10/07/2008 - 10:51 — PestControl (not verified)Was that a shot at "gvillegator"?
PestControl
Tue, 10/07/2008 - 15:00 — gvillegatrthere is that possibiltiy considering I "ain't" no Yankee transplant!
11 AND 1?
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 07:53 — Not Delusional Heel Fan (not verified)I love the Heels and consider myself to be fanatical fan, but 11 AND 1? I'd be thrilled with 9-3 with victories over the pack and dook.
Pointing out a Heelstomper error
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 02:24 — Anonymous (not verified)To say Lorenzen is UConn's best player is ridiculous.
They have the #1 NCAA rusher coming into the game, while Lorenzen has 1 touchdown and 6 INTs.
Not realistic
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 00:54 — DJ preesh (not verified)Anyone that doesn't realize that Rutgers and Miami and UConn wins weren't big time just doesn't follow or understand college football. Plus, the Heels had the Virginia Tech game won if not for having to put in Paulus and would have won the game anyway if not for 3 completely wrong calls by the refs that Viriginia Tech could not have won without.
So yes, the Heels are for real, they are a very good team with very good coaches, but to say they are going to win the rest of their games is a little strange. They may be good, but they are still young and have had some good fortune in every game but one. The bad luck they had against Va Tech is bound to happen at least one more time this season.
Sure, they are the best team and have the best coaching of any of the teams they play the rest of the season, but it would be extremely fortunate to win out.
I think based on what Caulton normally has to say about the Heels (or anyone not ECU) that he is just trying to jinx UNC with this prediction.
They had the best team and the best coaching at the Final Four and you saw how that turned out. The best team may win more than they don't, but it's not automatic by any means. Worse teams get hot all the time. The heels won't win out, but they will probably win 9 or 10
Not so fast
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 23:19 — Heelstomper (not verified)Are you people on crack? UNC will not go 11-1 or 9-3 for that matter, they are not that good. Who have they beaten? UCONN minus it's best player, a subpar Rutgers team and then lost to an average Va Tech team. They are getting better and are one of the best teams in the state this year I will give you that, but dont get carried away. Unlike the rest of my red clad followers I hope UNC beats Notre Dame by 50, just because I love the ACC and hate Notre Dame. People wake up from your dreamland, you are a good football team, BCS you are not. I hope you have a great season and you end up in the Top 20 and win your bowl game becasue it would make the Pack's victory in Chapel Hell that much sweeter! Mack Brown knew you would never make to the big time, that is why he left you high and dry, get use to it!
heelstomper
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 08:16 — gvillegatryou're a funny guy. b/c you obviously have no idea who UCants best player is. Most of the nation and UCant as well would tend to say their RB (who leads the nation in rushing) is the best player on the team.
Also, fans and students alike were wanting Fraser as thier QB ... not the guy who got hurt last week.
I'm sure UNC fans around appreciate your ND hatred and you can root all you want for Carolina this weekend, but UNC learned a hefty lesson letting Mack Brown walk. Do you honestly think that will happen again?? cmon now.
Politics gets hot BUT ....
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 23:12 — FloydTurbo"Politics" is one thing ..... but Caulton Tudor going complimentary to one area college team is A BIG DEAL.
This will surely have the loonies at NCSU and Dook in full "I told you Tudor was a Heel-lover" mode. "They" will gnaw on this column for years regardl;ess of the season's outcome.
UNC football
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 22:59 — EastsurryI hope you are correct. I want to see UNC and Wake Forest University in the ACC Championship game. I was the old man on the home side last year hollerin at Coach Grobe when Wake was up 3 or 4 TD's and he had the second and third guys in the game. Wake ran inside zone three or four times in a row. No serious attempt to put more points on the board. I wanted to score 50 on the Heels. I am so proud of my Deacs. The only way to stop the Carolina fans from braggin - is to play 'em. It is totally wrong that Wake and Carolina don't play every year. Also happy that the Devils are winning.
all you doubters who say UNC
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 22:03 — gvillegatrall you doubters who say UNC is overrated and all the teams UNC beats are way overrated ... does it make you guys feel better to say that? do you sleep better at night thinking this?? do you honestly believe that??
you have absolutely no evidence, other than Paulus taking over for Yates and a less than motivated team to come back from a 2hr lightning storm, to say UNC has played anyhting less than good football.
this UNC team is very good and if Draughn is the answer in the backfield then they are even better. I'd prefer to pass judgement after another ACC game b/c next week will be more of the same we have been seeing from all the other Div 1-a teams. 2 TD victory when TD Jesus comes to town! anyone who thinks ovethrwise is a ND fan, aUNC hater or one who thinks ND is still good.
I've been screaming about UNC running the table for two weeks now. most of it is hot air (i'm sure that got a good chuckle from 98% of you), but there is a since of truth in it as well or i would not say it. one game at a time though.
anybody going to be in Myrtle Beach this weekend?? its usually a NCSU haven when the bye week rolls around.
Thanks, Carlton
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 21:54 — ctillThanks, Carlton, I'm sure this column will be posted in the GT dressing room. But Carlton's position is consistent, I'll say. His columns have continuously bemoaned the ACC's expansion starting with GT in 1979.
OK...
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 21:06 — Anonymous (not verified)Carolina looked good against UCONN, but if they finish 11-1 they would have to be the worst team to have that good a record in history. This is a 7 win team....tops. Luck of the draw with scheduling, the ACC being down, etc.
I'm sure their happy in Chapel Hill though.
9-3 season
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 11:33 — Adam Durham (not verified)This team will win more than 7 games count on it. Since you seem to know so much about college football Let's just use your reasoning and look at the remaining teams we have to play. Name a team other than Boston College that has the coashing and talent to take NC to the wire? This footbal team is very talented on special teams and the defense is playing better everyweek. They have a very fast back of guys playing linebacker and secondary. Go back and watch the lat three games and you can see how much Davis and his staff have done to improve the team. Just a note they beat Miami. do any of you think Miami is low on talent this year? They almost beat florida state Saturday.. I am going to say they end up 9-3. If you disagree then let's see some facts. Talk is cheap...
blah blah blah
Tue, 10/07/2008 - 10:48 — CheapTalker (not verified)Where are YOUR facts? Most of what you said is outright opinion, the rest what you construe as fact. I will agree that UNC is improving, but it's a little early for you to think they are BCS bound. Most UNC "fans" are just pulling out their flags and shirts from the attic. Can you still fit in the shirt you wore the last time UNC was "good"?
Bold Prediction
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 20:40 — jswiger (not verified)Wow, that's a bold prediction. The ACC would be turned upside down if the Heels run the table. The name on the front of your jersey is a lot more important than the name on the back."
-Roy Williamstarheelbuckeye.blogspot.com
Circle Nov 4th in Chapel Hill
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 20:35 — GPBinApex (not verified)Before you go writing that 11-1 in ink, I would suggest you pay very close attention to team flying up from the ATL. With the best D-line in the conference, UNC will have little to no chance to establish a running game and Cam Sexton will have to beat GT through the air. Ask Thadeus Lewis about that assignment. And by our 10th game of the year, I expect Dwyer and Nesbit to be running "The Perfect Option" to perfection.
UNC vs ND
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 19:40 — VAIrish (not verified)Hey, UNC fans, act like you've been there before. You beat UConn? Stop the presses!! UConn was w/o their starting QB and hadn't played anyone yet. The one meaningful game you've been in (VA Tech) you totally choked (and Tech isn't that good this year). Not that ND is all of sudden a BCS threat, but they're a much better team than last year and will give you D all they can handle. I like to see UNC winning. I'm a Butch Davis fan but you better not take ND for granted. Their wideouts are going to be running by your Dbacks all day long.
News Flash
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 13:45 — Big D (not verified)The last time I check VA Irish, UNC was playing with their 3rd string QB. I bet you ND wouldn't have won one game if they were playing with someone who started the year at 3rd string QB. If you paid any attention to the VA/Tech game. Tech hadn't done anything until the starting QB Yates was injured. If you going to make points you need to make all of the points. You talk about ND being better then last year... News Flash... so is UNC.
UNC vs ND
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 21:50 — Anonymous (not verified)"act like you've been there before" Well we haven't been here in a long time so pardon our exuberance. That said, Tudor does not speak for all of us. Nonetheless, I find your prediction that "Their wideouts are going to be running by your Dbacks all day long" to be hilarious. Our DBs practice against Foster, Tate, and Hicks every day so I'll take my chances. As for the VT game, we didn't choke, we made the wrong choice when our starting QB went down. If Sexton went in, we'd be 5-0. I've heard the haters all year and we continue to answer the call every Saturday. When the Golden Domers get a beat down in Kenan, I'm sure the excuse will be "it's not the same ND team like years past". Whatever. We're a really good football team regardless and you'd better beat us this year if you can. We are going to be nasty good next year when we win the ACC. For now, I'll enjoy being relevant in the ACC for now. Keep hatin'!!!!!
Don't write this, Caulton!
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 19:35 — Anonymous (not verified)Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I hate it when people jump the gun. Let's see what the next few weeks bring.
Virginia Tech "whipped" the Tar Heels? I must have missed that game. I vote for "edged."
11-1?
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 19:30 — smithfieldsamTudor, you change with the wind. Three weeks ago it was East Carolina. (I noticed you had to write about your bed buddy Steve Logan after the BC-State game). Now it's North Carolina. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's possible, but with friends like you who needs doubters.
It's about time
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 19:18 — bpguitarheelAs a senior at UNC and a long time Tar Heel fan, it's nice to finally have a good team to cheer for again. Although I don't want to jinx it, 11-1 is completely possible, barring critical injuries or a VATech style let-down.
Bring on Charlie and those Irish!!
Tudor did you write this
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 19:03 — Anonymous (not verified)Tudor did you write this from the mental asylum?
Not so fast....
Sun, 10/05/2008 - 18:47 — Rocky (not verified)No way do I believe we're an 11-1 caliber team yet. Too many teams left on the schedule with similar strength, ie. GT, BC & ND. If we were fortunate enough to go 11-1 or 10-2, I also don't believe we could realistically expect to beat another team in a major bowl with a similar record. Having said that, I don't think the ACC is as bad a conference as everyone is making them out to be. I think there's maybe a touchdown difference between the top seven ACC teams. No one has really stood out. I expect a record of 8-4, maybe 9-3 at best for the Heels, either of which would be a very successful seaon at this point in Butch's tenure. We're on the way, but we're not there yet.