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Mike Glennon signed with N.C. State to play quarterback, not to watch someone else play quarterback.

After Russell Wilson's monster 2008 season, it's certainly Glennon's prerogative  to transfer to another program where he has a better chance to play quarterback, given Wilson has three seasons of eligibility remaining and Glennon has four.

But N.C. State needs Glennon, that much was clear Monday in the second half of the 29-23 bowl loss to Rutgers.

After Wilson posted the Wolfpack to a 17-6 halftime advantage, he missed the second half with a knee injury. Harrison Beck's predictable struggles ensued.

In 80 pass attempts this season, Beck threw seven interceptions. In 275, Wilson threw one.

Daniel Evans did his best to save State, leading a fourth-quarter touchdown drive which put State briefly back in front 23-19, but it wasn't enough.

When Wilson's healthy, State's good enough to beat any team in the ACC, and as the first half suggested, a hot Rutgers team. When he's not, they're not and actually it's worse than that. State's just plain bad without Wilson.

To wit, with a healthy, concussion-free Wilson for the entire game, State went 5-3 (throwing out the Clemson game under the "concussion-free" clause). Without him, State went 1-3 with the win being over a I-AA team (William & Mary).

If you add up the second half of the South Carolina game (which Wilson missed with the concussion), the South Florida game (which Wilson missed with a shoulder injury) and the second half of the Rutgers game, State was outscored 95-16 without Wilson.

Which brings us back to Glennon. Tom O'Brien and Dana Bible recruited Glennon out of Chantilly, Va. to be their quarterback, maybe not the next Matt Ryan, but the type of quarterback to build a program around.

Scout.com ranked Glennon the fifth-best quarterback prospect in the Class of 2008. He chose State over Virginia and Michigan.

O'Brien and Bible did not predict Wilson's freshman success. Wilson was a gift from the previous coaching staff, and really a recruiting blunder by UNC. He redshirted in 2007 while the current State staff pursued Glennon.

Wilson beat out Glennon in August and Glennon redshirted. Wilson proceeded to become the first-team All-ACC quarterback and the conference's offensive player of the year.

Wilson is also injury prone. There's no evidence to suggest he'll make it through all 12 games in 2009 unscathed.

Evans has already graduated. Beck will be a senior but clearly is not the answer, even as a backup. Beck has already transferred once in his college career (from Nebraska) and is unlikely to leave the program with one more season of eligibility.

Ultimately, Glennon has to do what's best for him. He just watched his brother Sean get jerked around by Virginia Tech's staff for four years, yo-yoing with Tyrod Taylor and going week-to-week without knowing his status.

Common sense says O'Brien and Bible will treat the younger Glennon better. Maybe they can convince Glennon to stay based on Wilson's future as a professional baseball prospect.

Wilson, who was drafted in the 41st round out of high school, is a sophomore in terms of baseball eligibility and can enter the MLB draft after the 2010 baseball season.

That leaves three football seasons (2010, '11, '12) for Glennon to start at quarterback. If Glennon transfers, he'll only have three seasons to start anyway.

That might be enough to keep Glennon in the fold. If not, they need to get back on the recruiting trail, or figure out a way to keep Wilson healthy.

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Which brings us back to Glennon. Tom O'Brien and Dana Bible recruited Glennon out of Chantilly, Va. to be their quarterback, maybe not the next Matt Ryan, but the type of quarterback to build a program around.
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Wilson/Glennon - thanks

dpboyette,
Thanks for the comments. I agree. From the article that I read the other day, Glennon and Wilson are pretty close and they help one another. I agree; stop creating rumors that have no basis to them. I've noticed Glennon giving Wilson "chest bumps" in elation after big plays. I think that he enjoys the atmosphere here, and is willing to wait his turn.

Wilson/Glennon

Is this reporting the news or creating it? Have you heard from any credible source that Glennon was thinking about transferring? I find it interesting the News and Observer "reported" that Nate Irving is strongly considering going pro (mid-way through the season no less) and that Glennon is considering transferring when neither player has ever commented about either subject publicly. Failure to mention or credit sources make these stories sound like pure speculation. And if these stories are speculation, why are they newsworthy? What is the purpose of these stories? Of course N.C. State needs Glennon next year and beyond, and a statement to that effect is obvious to anyone that cares or knows anything about N.C. State football. Thus, apparently the journalistic value of this article is that Glennon is considering transferring because Wilson had such an impressive season. How do you know this? Maybe he is excited about Wilson's play in that it will prevent him from having to play before he is ready. Elite quarterback prospects go to programs every year with the understanding that they must wait their turn to play. Glennon has never commented publicly that he expected to play in year 1 or year 2, or that immediate playing time figured into his reasoning to commit to N.C. State. Are you suggesting that he is unhappy because he might not start for another year or two? Did he tell you this? Maybe Glennon committed to State because he wanted to play for Coach O'Brien or because he loves the passion and dedication of the Wolfpack football fans. Maybe he is a grounded individual that understands that the best player plays and is willing to wait for his turn to play. While we are speculating, maybe he is good enough to beat Wilson out either next year or in 2010.

Is there any truth to the rumor...

that the doctor who held Russell out of the second half is Elliott Avent's brother?

Wilson must learn to slide

I don't understand a baseball player not sliding feet first as a QB, he's got to know how to slide !!! It's his only flaw and attributed to his injury riddled season. It should be TOB & Elliot Avent number one priority during baseball and the summer. TEACH WILSON TO SLIDE "FEET FIRST" I really believe that he had baseball on his mind when he came out of the tunnel ( the question is ??? If he were Football only guy...You think he plays that 2nd half ????? hmmmm

Actually, in the post game

Actually, in the post game interview Russell Wilson said that he wanted to play and he told the coaches to put him in but they decided to keep him out because of the doctor's.  I don't think he had any thought of his baseball season.

football or baseball first??

that was my first inclination when he ran out of the tunnel before the 2nd half started. 

lets see.  you hurt a part of your leg 20 mins earlier.  you are said to be out for the rest of the game.  then, you sprint out of the tunnel (supposed to have a hurt leg which would not all ow you to run out of the tunnel) and you do not play in the 2nd half even though the team needs you and you have your uniform on. 

baseball first State fans ... at least right now.

Baseball first, always

If Russell has a future as a pro, it is in baseball. I suppose he could be an Antwon Randall-El type player in the NFL, but why would he if he can have a longer career in MLB?

To me, it is refreshing that State's medical staff apparently makes recommendations that favor the long-term health of the players over short term gain and that TOB supports that approach. What if Russell had played in the second half and done more damage, perhaps missing spring practice and the start of next season? Who gains from that? Nobody but Mike Glennon and the Pack's opponents.

I do hope that Glennon chooses to stay. If he transfers, he has to sit next year anyway. At State, he will likely be the first option if Russell gets injured. Plus I see Russell moving on to MLB in two years at the most.

In the meantime, Glennon has to prove he is capable. Right now, he is nothing but potential. You only have to go as far as Chapel Hill to see that highly touted high school QB's don't always excel right out of the gate.

At UNC performance is on a fast track...

Davis has said the players that give the best chance to win "this" game will play. That would infer that when given the chance - you better use it.

I'm not saying TOB doesn't want to win, but would he be more patient with Glennon. If not, his best chance may be to look around. I doubt that will happen as he hasn't even begun using his eligibility yet.

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J.P. Giglio covers the ACC for the News & Observer, where he has worked since 1997.

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