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ATLANTA — This has been a season of firsts for Florida State and Leonard Hamilton. Add an appearance in the ACC Championship Game to the list.

Florida State beat top-seeded North Carolina 73-70 to advance to the final of the ACC Tournament for the first time since the Seminoles joined the league in 1992.

Toney Douglas and Derwin Kitchen hit four free throws in the final 47 seconds to give the fourth-seeded Noles the edge over the Tar Heels.

The Seminoles won 10 ACC games for the first time in Hamilton's sixth season and will make their first NCAA Tournament appearance under Hamilton and first since 1998.

Without Ty Lawson, UNC leaned on Wayne Ellington (24 points) and Tyler Hansbrough (22) but couldn't do what Lawson did against FSU on Jan. 28.

It was Lawson's running 3-pointer that beat FSU during the season. Lawson, the ACC Player of the Year, sat out for the second straight game with an injured toe.

Ellington and Danny Green each missed a 3 on the final possession.

Toney Douglas, as he has all season, led FSU with 27 points. His free throws at 47.2 gave the Noles a 71-70 lead.

Hansbrough, who scored 16 of his 22 points in the second half, got the ball on the next possession and tried to spin to the basket but was cut off by Uche Echefu and Derwin Kitchen.

Kitchen ended up with the steal and then the ball and was fouled with 15.7 seconds left. He hit both of his free throws.

Hansbrough is three points short of J.J. Redick's career scoring record (2,769). He did become Carolina's career leading rebounder, passing Sam Perkins (1,167). Hansbrough has seven boards. He grabbed Danny Green's miss at 19:09 in the second half to set the record.

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Let's get the hula-hoop,

Let's get the hula-hoop, shade, and dancing shoe!!!!

The Tar Heels have all that

The Tar Heels have all that great talent running around out there, however they are poorly coached. Ol Roy's a great recruiter, but nobody can deny he is a sub par coach. What a bunch of under achievers. The refs do everything they can to help Carolina win and they still lose. What a shame.

I guess

Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno are great recruiters and bad coaches too!?  what says you??

Oh Yea, 588 career

Oh Yea, 588 career wins, Highest win percentage among active coaches .811,  6 Final Four’s, A National Championship, In the Hall of fame.  That sure sounds like a sub par coach to me.

I don't know what you're thinking, but you're crazy!

danny green dancing anywhere tonight?

do any of you loyal unc fans know if danny green will be doing his extremely gay pregame dancee anywhere in chapel hill tonight? I am celebrating the unc loss with some friends and we thought it would be cool to see if he was available for a table dance.

Lotta Stats - But No Banner!

I said he's a great recruiter.  Who's had more talent to work with than Ol Roy over the years.  Only 1 title.  Who has more talent to work with this year than Ol Roy?  And still No Banner!  He coaches at a University that gets help from the ACC refs night in and night out.  That advantage goes away during the NCAA tourney.  Have you ever noticed, the Heels rarely look as good during the NCAA Tourney - decade after decade.  What a shame, all that talent gone to waste!

Lesson for the ignorant

For you ignorant Pack fans who keep saying that the refs help Carolina in basketball, why do you think schools like USC, Texas, Ohio State, and Florida win so many games in footbALL?  Let me help you; it's called superior talent.  That's why they win year in and year out.  They always have top 10 recruiting classes.  The same goes for basketball, the schools that consitently have top 10 recruiting classes consitently win more games.  Refs might occasionally give a game away, but not even remotely to the extent that you would like to believe.

They look pretty good year

They look pretty good year in and year out.  And the last I checked the sesaon isn't over yet.  there's no wasted talent there, UNC is consistent in the NCAA, And I'd rather have the NCAA refs, The refs in the Acc suck anyways.  Every team gets help from the refs every now and then, and if anything there are a lot of calls we don't get. At least my team does something every year, and competes for titles.

Carolina 2008-2009 Regular Season Champs!!

UNC got some of that icing on the Cake and the ACC was just something extra. Got one chance at the real icing in the NCAAs...Got to find the exta help from real gunners again. It appears they all took a vacation in the ACC. Imagine if UNC hits about 8 three point shots they would have been in two easy games. But it didn't happen. That's why I don't bet on anything. If was to bet on the teams that Duke plays I would have won the point spead on each game. That's what happening.

Tar Heels lost because of

Tar Heels lost because of Their HOF Coach, He puts  them in the game and takes them out. When they had a blackout why did he wait for five more minutes to put TH back in the game, why did he play the great defesive stopper as much as he did. Drew pla

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Damm, why did the camera's cut away just as Huckleberry was beginning his crying jag. Don't worry ACC fans I'll have it on Utube for your enjoyment. Of course there are many other instances you can also enjoy on Utube while you are waiting for me to upload the Huckleberry shower. Ol Huck could have decided to use Thompson, the charmin boy, to wipe away the torrent.

Unc fans have no class

yes..state fans like me are just a bunch of ignorant hicks who ride tractors and plow our crops..but we have respect for our opponents. I KNEW that soon after the UNC loss that the excuses would begin.. not an important game. We only care about the big dance... Our ACC player of the year is hurt.. Our defensive specialist is out for the year.. The refs screwed us over... The pregame meal made our tummys hurt... Bobby Frasor didn't get enough sleep..Danny Green broke up with his boyfriend before the tournament... Cry cry cry.... I love it!

Give em HELL brother. They

Give em HELL brother. They talk about no queers in UNC. What the hell was that shit the Students were holding up {at Carolina}, the pictures of Green dunking Paulus at Duke and proclaiming Danny Green 's tea. Keep your daughters away from those freaks. Send to State. We'll take em....

Who says that we don't have

Who says that we don't have respect for our opponents.  FSU is a good team, no UNC fan is disputing that, I think that most of us will agree that this loss was not a big deal.  We’ve already locked up a number one seed, and we more concerned about getting our players healthy for the next 3 weeks, while state will sitting home.  I'm not blaming ht loss on Ty Lawson not playing, but you know good and well if state was in the same position, with their star player out, you would be blaming it on that as well.  (but that would mean that state would have to actually have a decent team and in big game)And Don't sit there act like you don’t cry every time state loses, which happens to be a lot.You can say we don’t have respect for our opponents, but at least we have respect for our team and our players and our coaches.  We Don't boo our players and we show up for every game, unlike state fans.

 

More unc bullcrap

oh yes.. When unc was losing 10 games a season in football..where were the fans? Where were the unc fans during the matt doherty years? Anyone can say they have a loyal fan base while winning..but NC State fans stick by their football, basketball and baseball teams even during losing seasons. UNC fans vanish like a ghost when their teams start losing...where were the loyal unc fans during the john bunting years? State fans still sold out carter-finley during the awful amato final years and averaged 16,000 fans this basketball season despite a shitty record. Dude..anyone can say their fans are loyal while showing up to cheer for a 28 win season....duh.

You're crazy to think that

You're crazy to think that state fans are that loyal to their teams. I can't speak for all UNC fans, But i have been there year in and year out pulling for my Heels, In all sports. that includes the bunting years ( iliked him) and the doherty years. State fans are not as loyal as you think. yea they may show up to games, but by half time they are gone depending on how the game is going. there were no sell outs in football this season, and I doubt they sold the Carolina Hurricanes arena, except for the UNC and Duke game. So don't talk like you anything, UNC fans are loyal whether we win or lose.

you are a F*ckin^ liar

if you think ncsu sold 16,000 tickets to each basketball game this year. 

shut the heck up and move on to the next site.

haha.. why is a Wolfpack

haha..
why is a Wolfpack fan even talking about basketball?

no excuses..

Carolina lost and that's all there is to it..

now go plow your field..

 It's too wet, just like

 It's too wet, just like your wife was last night......

hahaha that's pretty

hahaha

that's pretty funny though

i dont have a wife..
im in college

Hey that great man..... Just

Hey that great man..... Just hope not UNC.

Hey that great man..... Just

Hey that's great man..... Just hope not UNC.

Come on N&O

Ban this idiot for making such comments on your web site.

Yeah..... that was  too

Yeah..... that was  too personal ...... my bad. Just need to keep rivalry related....

I was a Jimmy V Fan

I didn't give a dawn about NC STATE. The food and recipe sure look good on his TV Shows back in the day. I almost attempted to walk-on there at NC State. I'm true tar heel and it just don't mix with so policing town of Raleigh. Even the Law violate on the innocent in Raleigh. I just wish Jimmy V had not went to Duke for Medical Advice he might still be living. Beleive me the Duke Medical Staff is full of pranks. I'm not lying. I got sent to a psyhiatric ward at John B Umstead for just attempting to play basketball at NC State. Code name J.F. Lyons.

walk on at unc

why don't you walk on at unc? You can wear baby blue uniforms and be the next scott cherry. You can even play in an arena full of nerds and geeks and maybe even meet dick vitale. The only down side is you will have to be associated with unc.

oh yes..carollina lost

the reason wolfpack fans are talking about basketball is because we can.. and we will...get used to it. We are here to remind arrogant Wal-Mart Carolina fans that it so fun to listen to you cry like babies when you lose..but get used to it.. The days of 28-4 are over.. Get used to 18-12 or 17-13 next year.. I know.. I know.. You have the top recruiting class and Ellington is back and Roy can win without Lawson....hmmmm ... But what happened today??? Get used to it for next year!

What U Talkin Bout?

UNC can win 25 games without Lawson. Roy just didn't place Watts in the game today. Drew got to get comfortable shooting it down from the outside. If Ellington, Lawson along with the graduation of Hansbrough, Frasor and Green, Carolina will still be a powerhouse in the ACC to reckon with. You don't understand the talent coming in either. The game will still be there. They might sweet take John Wall into that baby blue for one or two years. What you think?

Give one reason why you

Give one reason why you think the wolfpack can talk basketball?  get used to what?  Everyone is already use to state losing, next isn't going to change.  I'd like to see you come back on ere next year and spit all of the crap out.  carolina will still be on top next year, who cares if were are losing most of our players,  The same thing happened in 05, and they came back the next year, with the top recruting class, and did very well, so Shut and stop acting like you know anything.

 Oh and for the recored, nc state apperal is just as easily obtainable at wamart too.

please define wal-mart

please define wal-mart Carolina fans cause last time i checked they also sale Duke & NC State appearl.

funny thing is your predicting Carolina's record for next year and it's still better than NC State's. 

I sat through the brutal 8-20 season. I'm pretty sure i can handle it smart one..

Wolfpack fans talking about basketball should be against the law. so should watching NC State basketball

next year looks good for unc...ha ha

yes... When hansbrough is cut by the grizzlies next year and lawson is on the bench for the kings and green is dancing at a gay bar in asheville next year.. I agree that frasor and thompaon and zeller will put together a strong 25 win season...rhey really looked great today. Is frasor handicapped? Is thompson a man? Is zeller homesick? They look simply overrated.

Wal-Mart is a huge employer

Wal-Mart is huge employer that offers you full time benefits at 28.5 hours. This is a conflict for people with responsibilities because some weeks your two week check is short as you know what. If you work in one department, some days you have to cover 4 or 5 other departments in a shift. Work in sporting goods back in the day was full of paper work in gun sales. If paper work is missing, you are place into the jail with federal conviction that fast. Transferring to another store may cause you to lose you job. The store manger might build up excusing having you terminated for subordination after request you to stay at their store. When you get terminated you unemployment benefits will be stopped in three weeks to six weeks. Do I feel perjured by Wal-Mart? Yes. That is why I went to the NAACP complaining about how Wal-Mart operates in America. The biggest con-artist of employee benefits ever. I would rather work for K-Mart and Target before them.

???

WTF?

DYSFUNCTIONAL at best

You get NC in a 1/2 court offensive game with Lawson ...they are Dysfunctional.....at BEST

Without him...THEY WILL LOSE AGAIN......

-Why is Zeller back?......he won't even look to shoot unless a layup...so he is totally lost when he gets the ball away from the basket......

-Green..you CAN NOT shoot on the move.....leave that to Lawson and Ellington...

-Frasor is a slow stiff who CAN NOT play on a team on a Final 4 run.......otherwise like today...
Keep playing him 33 wasted minutes and NC WILL LOSE again !!!!

-DAVIS MUST PLAY 35 mins a game !!!!!!!

-ELLINGTON has to step up and TAKE OVER.....he needed a career game today to overcome Roy Boy's bench coaching brainfxxxx

-Thompson is SOFTER than Charmin.... Keep Playing him more minutes than DAVIS and they WILL LOSE again....

Danny Green Played the Wrong Member of the Fantastic 4

Wayne Ellington was Mr. Fantastic, Pyscho T was The Thing, Toney Douglas was The Human Torch and unfortunately for us Tarheel fans Danny Green played the Invisible Girl! He totally disappeared in these two ACC Tournament Games. With Ty Lawson out we needed him to be the Human Torch and not someone on the opposite team. Danny Green has got to play better or The Heels need the number of a good podiatrist to HEEL Ty Lawson's Toe in a hurry! Everyone says the Heels go as far as Lawson goes, but I say the Heels go as far as Danny Green goes, because he is the ultimate X factor.

AGREED

and post so on my facebook page!

poetic justice

There you go, all you band wagon Tarheels jerks....This could not have happen to a most deserving team and fans. I suppose you were crying for a foul on your "hero" after the noles "cleanly" steal for Crybaby Tyler. Hey Roy, are you laughing now??? After you did when your boy Davis called for a foul on Douglas.. How's it feel to lose in the final minutes and watching your boys crying on the bench. Hey gvillegatr and excuses4ever....Ya'll wondered about Tyler and his recognition, well the hell that.... they might show it tomarrow with a picture him crying about not getting the ACC championship his last {Thank God} year. Better get used to losing. W/o the beloved ACC officials in the big dance, this will happen again. Hell the whole university might down if does. GO to Hell Carolina......

Speak English much?

Do you talk like that or are you just a really bad typist?

You  get point don't cha

You get the point ,don't cha

Yeah, I get the point

You're foul mouthed and full of hate.  Try making a point without being obscene and try being somewhat realistic.

You have no idea what you

You have no idea what you are talking about.  I didn't see anyone crying after the game.  you must have been thinking back to when your team lost and you let out the tears like a little baby!! And I agree with gvillegatr that there was no foul on that play.  But I don't care, and most UNC fans don't.  UNC wasn't expected to win this game; at least I didn't think so.  We're more concerned with the bigger picture, the tournament that matters.  and You know, I bet Ole Roy Was laughing, laughing at the thought of state fans or whoever you pull for, not having a chance to do anything else this season, either that or you posting something dumb on the message boards.  And I'm sure you're very glad that this is Tyler's last year, now you don’t have to worry about him dominating your team anymore.And, one last thing, I can't wait for UNC to get to the Big dance with their Overall Number 1 seed and get rid of the Acc officials, they suck anyways, we don't want them.Good luck with where ever your team ends up, if anywhere.  they're probably not worth the trouble anyways.

Hey dumb ass, I guess you

Hey dumb ass, I guess you didn't listen to your so-call "All American " radio announcer Woody Durham who stated the Heels were favored by 9 pts according the Las vegas odds. Oh, by the way, for you and gvillegator, talk with me after your loss in the big show and the end of The Great Psyco TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT. NOT

read your first sentence

starting to see a trend here.  did you wolf puppy fans think Tyler was fouled when he lost the possession down 1?  it appears so. 

me being a Heels fan thought other wise.  he lost the ball before he was fouled. 

We appreciate you guys thinking about us though!

HEY no I didn't think he

HEY no I didn't think he was foul but your coach sure did. He wasn't even fouled before or after, he just flopped like all the tarholes do trying or should I begging for a foul.... We will be thinking of you crying the rest the night....dry your eyes.......

we'll be thinking of you

we'll be thinking of you while your waiting on football season to arrive..

good luck trying to get a NIT bid..

Yeah... and we be waiting to

Yeah... and we be waiting to kick your butts in Carter Finley for the third straight year. Hell. State don't deserve to go anywhere and continue our misery. Sid must go....

i'll be waiting

in my seat!  won't happen!!  Heels 34-16 this coming year!

How about letting me what

How about letting me know what seats you're in so I can slap you up side your head during the massacre in the Carter. 34-16. Hell, your boys in blue only score 10 pts. last year. How in the Hell do you think you could even score a FG.

eld240

I promise this to you.  If you have the balls to make it through the year, here at ACCNOW, you and I will connect at Crap-Farter for the UNC and ncsu game. 

bring it for the next 8 months (b/c you are new or at least your name is) and you and me will go at it the last weekend of the year when ncsu desperatley needs the win for a bowl game!

Sound goods. I will be

Sound goods. I will be waiting. But I think you are the one wrong.... It won't be STATE trying become bowl eligilibe with that one game. So I'm sure unc will have their hand pick referees with them, like the game of TA's fumble. It don't happen??? It's funny I have not seen or heard of that crew calling any games of that blown call at the goal line before the fumble. Yeah I'm new to scene but have enough stirring up the rivarly....

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J.P. Giglio covers the ACC for the News & Observer, where he has worked since 1997.

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