Observations from the Red-White scrimmage:
• The lineups: Julius Mays, C.J. Williams, Scott Wood, Dennis Horner and Jordan Vandenberg started for the White.
Javi Gonzalez, Farnold Degand, Johnny Thomas, DeShawn Painter and Tracy
Smith started for the Red, with Josh Davis subbing for Thomas.
• The White won the 15-minute scrimmage, complete with three officials, 22-21 on Williams' running jumper at the buzzer.
• As expected, Smith looked strong in the post. He had two good takes, one at the expense of Vandenberg, and will obviously be the focal point of the offense. Where his help will come from is another question.
Horner's a little bigger, but is still more of a face-the-basket player. Painter's got some length, at 6-9, but he's relatively skinny.
Lowe insisted Vandenberg wasn't a "project" during media day but he made some rookie mistakes — bringing the ball low in the post so Gonzalez could steal it, the most glaring — that suggest he's not going to be a part of the 10-man rotation Lowe talked about.
• Wood's rep is as a shooter and he didn't disappoint, hitting a 3-pointer and converting three free throws after getting fouled on a 3-point attempt. His minutes will go up the more zone defense State sees.
• It looks like Degand has made a full-fledged transition to the 2-guard. Whether he stays there, and whether Lowe starts to use Mays and Gonzalez together, remains to be seen.
Gonzalez looked more assertive and he'll have to be as a junior and with all the new players in the program.