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ACC bowl partners in Charlotte or Washington might want to invite N.C. State to their game, but the NCAA might not allow it.

Under ACC rules, N.C. State can play in any of the conference’s bowl tie-ins except the Orange Bowl. Under a relatively new NCAA rule, N.C. State could get left out of the conference bowl lineup and perhaps the postseason altogether.

The Wolfpack finished the regular season 6-6 overall, the minimum number of wins for bowl eligibility, but it is 4-4 in the ACC, which is either tied with or within one game of the nine other ACC bowl-eligible teams, which technically opens the door from Atlanta (Chik-fil-A Bowl) to Washington (EagleBank Bowl) for the Wolfpack.

But, and here comes the confusing and potentially disappointing part for the Wolfpack:

The ACC has 10 bowl-eligible teams and nine conference tie-ins. According to the NCAA Postseason Football Handbook, the ACC is required to fill its bowl slots with 7-win teams before 6-win teams.

N.C. State is the only bowl-eligible team with six wins, which under NCAA rule, leaves the Wolfpack on the outside looking in.

The NCAA doesn’t legislate the bowls, though. The bowls are contracted by the conferences and the two sides — not the NCAA — determine which teams plays where.

“We’re in uncharted territory,” said ACC associate commissioner Michael Kelly who coordinates the conference’s bowl contracts. “We have to get to the bottom of [the NCAA] rule and work with our bowl partners and the NCAA. It might be another seven days before we have an answer.”

Will Webb, the executive director of the Meineke Car Care Bowl in Charlotte, said he believes the NCAA rule is open to interpretation.

“It’s really a matter of everyone working together,” Webb said. “As long as the [ACC] can find a home for all of its 7-5 teams, [the ACC bowl partners] can take a 6-6 team.”

The NCAA handbook explicitly states no such deal is allowed to occur but the ACC might have a potential way around it. Sean Metcalf, the head of the first-year EagleBank Bowl, said Maryland (7-5) has informed him that it cannot play in their game because the date, Dec. 20, conflicts with the university’s exam schedule.

The ACC could work with the NCAA to put State in the EagleBank Bowl, which picks ninth in the ACC’s bowl order, and broker a deal for the Terrapins.

N.C. State's exams are earlier in December, leaving them free to play on bowl's date.

“We’re going to deal with that this week, once everything with the ACC gets cleared up,” Metcalf said.

The good news for State is there is a shortage of bowl-eligible teams in the SEC, Big 12 and Pac-10 conferences, which means there will be at least three potential bowls for the Wolfpack if it is frozen out of the ACC lineup.

If the SEC and Big 12 each send two teams to the Bowl Championship Series bowls — and given Sunday’s BCS standings, that’s all but certain — then there will be at-large openings in the PapaJohns.com Bowl, the Texas Bowl and both spots in the Independence Bowl. If Ohio State is picked for a BCS bowl, a fourth at-large bowl, the Motor City Bowl, would be available.

A 6-6 team cannot be chosen for at-large spot over a team with a record of 7-5 or better. That means one team from the Mid-American Conference — 9-3 Western Michigan, 8-4 Central Michigan or 7-5 Buffalo — has to fill one of the at-large spots. The MAC has bowl-tie ins for two of those teams.

If Arkansas State (6-5) beats Troy (7-4) on Saturday, the Sun Belt Conference would have two 7-5 teams and Troy would be locked into the PapaJohns.com Bowl.

If Troy wins, and the game is at Troy, the Sun Belt would only have one bowl team, and the other at-large spots would remain open for the 6-6 teams.

N.C. State and Notre Dame are the only 6-6 teams from the BCS without a conference bowl tie-in. Louisville (5-6) and Arizona State (5-6) could join them in the at-large pool with wins this week.

At best, N.C. State’s looking at four open at-large spots. At worst, there could be two spots for four 6-6 BCS teams. There will be five 6-6 teams from outside the BCS conferences by the end of the week.

Wolfpack athletic director Lee Fowler has been working with Kelly and ACC commissioner John Swofford about his program’s bowl future.

“We want the best situation we can find,” Fowler said.

That might have to be a destination outside the ACC’s bowl lineup.

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Are the anabolic steroids

Are the anabolic steroids included in these plans? It would be great to see that.

Clemson

didnt Clemson beat NC State though? you'd think they would get benifit of the doubt...

I highly doubt any 6-6 teams

I highly doubt any 6-6 teams would get chosen before State. Traveling fans, the hottest team in the ACC, the best and most exciting QB in the league, they have plenty to offer potential bowls.

6-6

you need to remember these bowl committee's are not die hard fans of NCSU like yourself.  they may not feel the same way you do.  6-6 is what they know and they will act accordingly.  the maryland game has to hurt the most ... 90 yd drive to end the game.  should have been 7 wins right there. 

you don't need to be a

you don't need to be a die-hard fan to acknowledge FACTS. state's fanbase has traditionally traveled well. state has the longest current winning streak in the acc. russell wilson leads the conference in TD passes.

True enough, but...

the "traveling fans" part is huge. Bowl committees want butts in the stands and the Pack can do that very well. Plus, they did close the season playing exciting football.

If you want to talk about 6-6 teams that don't deserve to go to a bowl, let's talk Notre Dame. Losing to Syracuse should automatically eliminate them. But you know they will be an attractive choice, even as many are calling for Charlie Weis's head.

6-6 < 7-5

exciting football or not, 6-6 is the record and the bowl committees have to look at 7-5 first.

Unbiased, i'd put a more competitive team in NCSU on the field before I would Neuter Dame. (intentional mispelling)  the bowl committee will not see it that way.

Neuter Dame

Gatr, you should publish a glossary of your nicknames for college sports teams. I would buy it.  

These are great i'd love to

These are great i'd love to see some of them on shirts worn at games. Not sure how well it'd go over with local fans but oh well. I'm sure the guys on steroids would be raging at Neutered Dame.

ACC bowl eligibility

Per the NCAA rulebook (page 9), Clemson only has 6 wins for bowl eligibility purposes since they have two wins against FCS opponents. The ACC could put NC State in the EagleBank Bowl and work out a deal to have Clemson go to the Motor City and play versus Ball State.

Don't know yet

Page 9 says "winning teams" which in the eyes of the NCAA (?), Clemson is 6-5. That's a winning record.

But that's just an educated guess. What should bother anyone on this front is that the NCAA has NOTHING to do with the I-A postseason, yet is now somehow trying to tell the ACC what it can and can't do.

 — JPG

Solution to the Problem was NC State's

If State had a winning record instead of a break-even record there wouldn't be all this concern. NC State should have taken care of business during the season.

nc state had one of the

nc state had one of the tougher schedules in the country this season, especially early on. they weren't able to rack up enough wins until they played weaker teams like unc at the end. replace south carolina and south florida with uconn/rutgers/ND and state more than likely has 7 wins.

MAC vs The Pack!

If I were the Motor City Bowl, i'd be eyeing the Pack. I think the winner of the MAC and the Pack would be a great match-up!

I would love that.

A four-hour (one way), post-Xmas road trip would be in order.

man..

wow, that could be heart breaking for the wolf pack. i think they deserve a bowl bid personally.. are bowl "eligible" and have beat 3 teams that are going to bowls... they should go..

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