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During a postgame news conference that was extremely classy considering the magnitude of Duke’s 82-50 hammering of North Carolina, Tar Heel coach Roy Williams paid the Blue Devils a huge compliment Saturday night.

"This is the best Duke team that’s been here in the seven years I’ve been here,” Williams said.

It was an interesting point that’s worth a closer look. In Williams’ first season at North Carolina, the Blue Devils went to the 2004 Final Four. In 2006, Duke was ranked No. 1 in the nation at the end of the regular season before falling to LSU in a regional semifinal game in Atlanta.

Both of those teams boasted one of the ACC’s best shooters ever in J.J. Redick and a strong post presence on offense and defense in Shelden Williams. Is this Duke team really better?

Probably not. The ACC was stronger in each of those seasons than it is in 2009-10, but Duke still won the conference outright during the regular-season in both 2004 and 2006.

The Blue Devils are a better rebounding team in 2010 than the 2004 and 2006 teams. But that strength is offset by the fact that the current team lacks a big guy like Williams who can physically dominate an opponent by scoring in the low post.

Duke’s 2006 team was flawed, though, because it relied so heavily on Redick and Williams; no other player averaged more than nine points per game. In that respect, the three big scorers on the current team (Jon Scheyer, Nolan Smith and Kyle Singler) give the Blue Devils more options if one player is cold.

But the 2004 team had the most balance, which probably was why it reached the Final Four. Redick, Luol Deng, Daniel Ewing, Williams and Chris Duhon all averaged at least 10 points per game on that team.

Four of those players still are in the NBA, and it seems unlikely that the current team has that many players who are going to have that kind of NBA longevity. So the 2004 team probably is the best one Williams has faced since he came back to North Carolina.

Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski, incidentally, is staying out of this discussion.

"This is a good Duke team,” he said. “This is a very good Duke team. I’m not big on comparisons.”

In that respect, Krzyzewski took the same position as former North Carolina coach Dean Smith, who didn’t like to compare his Tar Heel teams to one another.

As for Williams, his appreciation for the 2010 Duke team might be heightened by his admiration for the seniors who were honored Saturday night, especially guard Jon Scheyer.

"To go from a quote ‘shooting guard’ to one of the primary ball handlers and have seven assists and no turnovers (Saturday), that’s sensational,” Williams said. “I’ve really enjoyed him as a college basketball player and think he stands for so many great things.”

Williams went on to say that Lance Thomas does all the dirty work and helps the Blue Devils, and complimented Brian Zoubek on his play late in the season. All three of those players represent something the Tar Heels haven’t had this season.

North Carolina tried to convert Dexter Strickland from a shooting guard to a point guard and found out how difficult it was. The Tar Heels could have used a fiery senior like Thomas who can defend multiple positions. They would be a better team if they had some players who’d responded to adversity throughout their careers as well as Zoubek.

This may or may not be the best Duke team Williams has faced in his seven seasons as the Tar Heels’ head coach. But it’s easy to see what he likes about this team.

- Members of Duke’s incoming freshman class – point guard Kyrie Irving and forward Josh Hairston – sat in the locker room after Saturday’s game, taking in the spirited atmosphere.

Thomas said it was good for them to be there and see Duke (26-5, 13-3 ACC) celebrating its share of the regular season ACC championship. He said there was a sense of passing down the tradition to the next generation.

"Definitely,” Thomas said as Irving listened from the chair next to him. “Them being here and seeing what this feels like, getting a taste of it before you even get here, is big time. Because when they get here, they’re going to have to do everything in their power to get this feeling again. This is something that me and my team will share. They haven’t felt this yet. They didn’t earn this yet. So when they come, they know what they will have to do to be in this position. There’s no better feeling.”

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Roy and State

As a Duke fan, let me say that I couldn't give a sh*t about Roy or anything that he says. I'm shocked he took time to complement Duke, usually he's too busy throwing his players under the bus in post game news conferences and his radio shows. As for the Duke-NCSU game. I was at that game. State played great that night and as much as I hated losing that game, I was happy for them. Watching their fans storm the court was good fun. Since that game Duke has gotten better. Wish State would have won today so we'd have the 2 RTP teams worth rooting for in the finals. 9F

this is BUFFOONERY

unc098 wrote on March, 6 9:43 AM:

Swami says it will be closer than that. I hope so....Heels have some things in their favor and if they can keep it close early they may have a chance....even a wolfpacker should love to see the Devils taken to Mamba's outhouse at Cameron.
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what a deluded and pathetic joke this is......WRONG all season and unc098.... still doesn't get it....

OOOHHH Mamba you are sooo

OOOHHH Mamba you are sooo  Deep.

Who the XXXX cares what Roy boy has to say

After recruiting a totally dysfunctional roster.....and being MIA since the ACC schedule began......Plus the head of a roster that quit on him..and vice versa..... Any real Tar Hole fan can;t wait for this nightmare to end....
UNC098 has run his desperate mouth all season....and has been WRONG WRONG WRONG with every word of blind faith delusion that has spewed out ...like the chick in the Exorcist...

"Had Dook NOT scored a point in the 2nd half..they would have still won by 3.."

Roy 2010 is an embarrassment and all the 098 buffoons that want to kiss his *** will have all next season to do it again.... pucker up....since this" ain't" over......

Still on the player bailout watch........

-When/ IF SSS shoot 30% like they did against Maryland....their season will be over....
-Ditto the Tar holes who have no shot against GT..then it's off to some Toilet Tournament....

mamby!!!!!!!!!!!!

did u call UNC-98-THE LOSER A TARHOLE-BUFFON? U NEED TO EASE UP ON HIM, ALL THAT LOSING HAS MADE HIM IRRATIONAL, OK, GO DUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mamborcist

You Obviously have quite the stake in what Roys says or doesn't say otherwise you would have nothing to post about. Your sense of RIGHT and WRONG is pretty limited. Your boring repetitious mutterings are amazing only in the fact that you mindlessly keep pushing the repeat button in your tiny brain. Go get some electroshock treatments. 

 

mamby!!!!

save your money,electroshock treatments do not work, unc-98 is living proof of that ok, go duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mamby!!!!

is 100% correct in his assessment of unUNC-THE LOSER, and CARAWHINA, and momma said mamby does no have a tiny brain, it is another part of his body that is tiny, ok, goDUKE!!!

 

 

As to the article. I think

As to the article.
I think if you look at Williams comments in the context of his recent tenure at UNC I would have to agree with him. I think it is a function of a mature and exceptional back court that is very coachable and able to translate that into a successful outcome this year.
Though I don't believe that personnel wise this is the best team I think they are very disciplined and consistent. They have weaknesses in the front court on defense, scoring and rebounding which may handicap them in the post season. Maybe not. The Plumlees seem to be progressing nicely.

I agree with unc098

It'd be nice to see some of these State fans take a creative writing class. I am proud that one of you learned the word "dysfunctional," although it is annoying that you flaunt it. Carowhina ain't all that innovative if you use it every other word. It also doesn't help that you use that term when many State fans who post on here regularly make it a point to call out the officiating EVERY SINGLE GAME. Just an observation...

holes-20!!

watch that whinning, ok go duke!!

Whoa

Fortunately there are many State posters who express themselves very well and with some class to boot. I have to say that my comment may apply to maybe one State fan but it was intended for Mamby who we all know is rather limited in his ability to express himself.Who knows maybe he is a closet State fan. We will never know for sure. Of course there is one other who I will not acknowledge and needs no introduction.

mamby!!!!

i think unc-98 aka " the loser" paid us both a left-handed complement, momma would be so proud of both of us, tell momma i really appreciate the snuff she sent me, ok, go duke!!!!!!!

Yeah

That's why I made sure to include "some of these."  There clearly is some irony there.

Isn't it ironic?

 I haven't called out the refs in EVERY game this year.  Just when I felt they were shafting us.  Most notably for you should be State's game in Chapel Hill...I had no problem with the officiating in that one.  But yeah, it is ironic.  That's why I don't use the term you're talking about...plus, I'm not big on the name-altering jokes, though I have been known to throw around "sleEZU", and I did use my first "DUIke" the other day.

Just keep remembering that these morons who type like they're 8 years old are a very small minority.  And at least the infamous one is a Duke fan and not a State fan.

Easy there, Max

"Every" game may be a bit of an exageration, but it has been very often.  In all honesty, I actually like to read your comments when they don't consist of complains about officiating or weak insults toward Carolina.  You obviously watch a lot of basketball and the fact that you usually know what you're talking about is the reason why I respect you enough to respond to your posts, even the ones that I think are unnecessary.

The "Carowhina" comment was not directed at you at all, but instead just toward "some" State fans.

I do have to criticize you in one way.  You're giving this infamous poster way too much credit by proclaiming he is 8.  I would say more like a 6 year old who was dropped on their head as a baby...multiple times.

That

was for those who didn't see the original posts.

mambas comment

The dysfunctionals will finish 5-11 for the ACC season


-NO back court

-NO Shooters

-NO Thugs

-NO defense

-NO coach

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 unc098 

Dude!! take a creative writing class or something.....We kNOw your points. NObody will take you seriously with this drivel. You may have NOticed this already.

  

Who said State was better than CRYoWHINEa???

I merely stated that State beat this Duke squad that lil roy has proclaimed as "the best he's seen in 7 years"..... tis it NOT true??? BTW- State beat them HANDILY. I'm sorry you lost to them by THIRTY PLUS, but that hardly makes them the best team they've had in 7 years.

super win for ncsu

but lets not kid ourselves.  DUIke wasn't nearly as good as they are now when they lost to ncsu at the Canadian Bank Arena (yar8pack's term ;O))

DUIke's peaking at the right time and who knows, maybe they will get out of the sweet 16 this season! ...

also, to the poster who whined about UNC cutting down nets after winning the regular season and DUIke doesn't do that ... well, how bout going to goduke.com.  click on Mens basketball and let the four starters from Dukes team pass by and go to the second article and you will see Jon Scheyer cutting down the nest in Cameron with the 2010 Regular Season ACC Champs in the background on the score board.

is it too late to LOL at CRYoWHINEa????

State beat this "vaunted" Duke squad.....

That's right

And we all know that the transitive property undoubtedly applies to basketball.  NC State is clearly better than North Carolina!

HOLES-20

WHAT IN THE HE-L DID U SAY, U GOT TO TRANSLATE THAT FOR MAMBY, OK, GO DUKE, THE 32 POINT WINNER OVER THE  SORRY TARHOLES, GO DUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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About the blogger

Ken Tysiac has covered the ACC for The Charlotte Observer since 2003, and spent the previous eight years covering Clemson for the Anderson Independent-Mail and then The State in South Carolina. He grew up in Rochester, N.Y., and is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame.

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