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APEX -- Harnett Central senior quarterback Brian Taylor announced on Friday night that he intends to verbally accept an offer from N.C. State on Saturday to play football for the Wolfpack next season.

After the Trojans defeated Apex 51-31 on Friday, Taylor said he received an offer from the Pack on Thursday and intends to call coach Tom O'Brien on Saturday morning. He was unable to speak with anyone from the staff on Friday.

Taylor, a 6-foot-2, 200-pound quarterback, led the Trojans to the N.C. High School Athletic Association 4-A state championship game last season. Along the way, he passed for 2,024 yards and 13 touchdowns and rushed for 1,023 yards.

Known for unflappable confidence, Taylor possess a strong right arm and quick feet. His coaches say he constantly leads by example.

Taylor would chose the Wolfpack over other offers from Clemson, North Carolina and East Carolina.

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Glad you're runnin' with the

Glad you're runnin' with the Pack, Brian !!!

WELCOME :-)

Another Russell Wilson?

I hope he is another Russell Wilson type player - i.e. someone who was "too small" or "not up to BCS telent level" to play qb, as was said of RW by most of the experts. Didn't get a lot of interest from big-time programs.

I've been watching Taylors numbers since last year, and am thrilled to hear he wants to go to Carolina State. He seems like the type who will study films and do whatever he can to be the best he can, like someone else we know.  I hope he can play baseball for The Pack, too, like someone else we know.

I LOVE this type of player.  O'Brien is often very successful at recognizing talent that escapes others. I hope this proves again that O'B is a true recruiting expert.

Come on to Raleigh, BT! Bring Torrain Walker and Jarrod Spears guy along with you.

I knew it

A State fan would get excited over a 2-star recruit, comparing him to Russell Wilson and players that TOB coached back at BC.

You must be jealous Heel20

Considering the fact UNC offered him last year and really wanted him badly.  You should go to see Taylor at a Harnett Central game and see for yourself what kind of talent he has.  You will see why Butch Davis was so interested and why he has a very good chance to be an outstanding D1 quarterback.  Remember how many stars a player has by his name doesn't amount to much when they actually start playing the game.

Yeah

We brought in Everett Golson (49 TDs, 3 INTs last year) and Marquise Williams (Big time dual threat), but I would rather have a 3rd QB in this recruiting class that isn't as good as the other two.  You caught me.
 

Paulus was a 4/5 star QB...

How did that work out for you?  Yep, and we got stuck with that 2 star QB UNC didn't want.  What was that kid's name again?

UNC has a history of flopping with their highly rated QB recruits.  NC State has a history of of finding 'diamonds in the rough' at the QB position.   True, NC State's recruiting is currently lagging behind UNC's, but one area where Tarheels shouldn't employ their ever common snobery in diss'n NC State's ability to recruit talented (if not highly rated) QB's.

to be fair

UNC-CH actually offered (or were seriously pursuing) RW but Amato and then TOB were both willing to let him be dual sport.  I think Bunting's firing also played a role i remember reading.

but honestly, it was in seriously poor taste to rag on a recruit (4A state champ) as if you didn't want him not knowing that your school was actually interested in him

Didn't say we weren't interested

I follow recruiting more than just about anyone on this blog.  In fact, Harnett Central has been successful in the recent past in producing solid QBs.  The name Rodney Cox comes to mind.

And, no, Bunting never offered Wilson.  He said he had one of the best workouts he'd ever seen, but Paulus had already committed to UNC and Bunting felt it would be a disloyal move to offer Wilson.

You mean RW?

TDiddyt,

You must be tired. The name just wouldn't come to your tongue. I'm sure you're referring to Russell Wilson, who once torched a slightly favored opponent 41-10 in THEIR house! If you don't believe it, I can send you a picture taken in the last minutes that shows the home team bleachers almost DESERTED! (Except for the visitors' section). I never saw 2,000 visitors outnumber the home fans in a BCS game before.

But this is a good time to remember some other NCSU qb's, (beyond the obvious Hall-Of-Famers like Roman Gabriel and Phillip).  Johnny Evans was a joy to watch. Was he All-ACC? I'm pretty sure Erik Kramer was all-ACC before he embarked on his nice NFL career. And Terry Harvey! God love him! HE was TOUGH as nails AND pitched very well for the NCSU baseball team. Hmm... i see a pattern. Wasn't he all-ACC, too?

I remember one game where Terry Harvey was 23 of 25 passes for the day. They spanked their opponent that day. Maybe one of you readers can remember who the victim was. But he was told by most recruiters that he was too small to play D1.

One of my favorite QB's was Jamie Barnette. No one but carolina STATE recruited that little guy for QB (or anything else), and he threw m-a-n-y TD passes. Thank you for coming to Raleigh, Jamie! (He started as a freshman, too, like RW).

Never denied State's past

State has had quite a few QBs come through who were extremely successful.  However, it doesn't make sense to say that Taylor will be successful because a few underrated QBs made things happen a long time ago.  Keep in mind that it didn't hurt Evans that he had Ted Brown's running game to open up his passing.  Barnette had some good backs as well, in Tremaine Stephens, Rayshaun Spikes and Ray Robinson.  There was also a guy who wore the #81 who did alright at wide receiver for Barnette's first three yars.  Also remember that Barnette was 0-4 against the Heels and only led the team to a bowl game one time.  Not saying he's a bad player, but let's keep things in perspective.

Admittedly, it's subjective,

Admittedly, it's subjective, but I think you are underrating Barnette just a bit.  His career has been somewhat diminished in the minds of many simply because he was immediately succeeded by Rivers.  Most of the records Rivers broke were Barnette's.

The 1998 Baylor game serves something of a microcosm of the frustrating career of Jamie Barnette.

After passing for 287 yds and 2 TD's to upset #2  FSU 24-7 in week 2,  Barnette passes for 469 yds and 3 TD's against lowly Baylor, only to LOSE 33-30 because the defense couldn't stop anybody and the special teams had a chip shot FG blocked with 4 seconds left.

When Barnette graduated, he was 2nd, all time, in ACC history in career passing yards and career passing TD's

9,461 passing yds (2nd to Ben Bennett in ACC history)
59 TD's (2nd to Joe Hamilton)
124.41 carrer passer rating

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Not to take anything away from Barnette

He was a very good QB, but his stats are somewhat inflated because he was a 4-year starter and had so much talent around him (Holt, Coleman, Whitted, Stevens, Spikes, Ray Robinson, Koren Robinson).  He definitely had his down games, types of games that Rivers never had.  Ironically, a win at Texas is the first game that comes to my mind.  It was Barnette's senior year and he seemingly could get nothing going.

That said, he played much bigger than he was and was fun to watch.  Mike O'Cain may not be the best head coach in the world, but he always has been able to develop QBs.
 

However, it doesn't make

However, it doesn't make sense to say that Taylor will be successful because a few underrated QBs made things happen a long time ago.

I agree 100%.  Bad logic. 

But is also doesn't make sense for UNC fans to berate NC State for signing 'only' a 2 star QB.  My above comment was not directed towards you, specifically.  But to those who engage in such ridicule.

Recent low ranking recruits who played QB at NC State:  Jamie Barnette, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson.

Going back a bit further, with little less heralded college careers:  Erik Kramer, Terry Harvey, Terry Jordan, Geoff Bender, Shane Montgomery.

All of which proved to be solid to sensational major college QB's.

ridiculed?

who on here has ridiculed the Taylor kid?  I'd like some cut and paste work, not some perceived BS coming from your fingers. 

state fans have the skin of a 90 yr old lady.

Define recent

Barnette has been gone for over a decade.  Since then, State has had 6 other QBs start.

Not sure if it was you, but someone mentioned earlier that State has recently developed QBs while UNC hasn't.  Have to disagree.  Curry (although a highly touted recruit), Durant and Baker were all pretty good QBs.  I think Sexton would have been fine if he stuck around another year.

which makes you wonder

why these QB's don't get the he11 out of Dodge!?

So

Just because he's a 2-star going to State means he's going to be better than 4-stars going to UNC?  Yeah, that makes sense.  Recruiting analysts aren't always right, but they are right more often than not.  You act like State is automatically going to make this guy a star.  Daniel Evans was a 2-star recruit and one of the best HS QBs in North Carolina history.  And as I said before, Golson isn't getting ranked off pure potential.  The guy showed excellent decision making by throwing 49 TDs to 3 INTs last season.  Enjoy your mediocre recruiting and occasional upsets.  I'll happily accept highly touted recruits and winning records.

I don't think anyone said

I don't think anyone said what Brian Taylor would do in college, just some people expressing some hope that he could become an excellent QB.  The problem is that you seem to have to post comments that attempt to put down other people.  That tends to make you sound like you are jealous.  Your recruits sound great so why not build your team up without putting other teams down?  If UNC offered Taylor last year don't you think that would indicate that Davis considers him a quality QB with lots of D1 potential?   Oh and it should be noted that he was being recruited by other major colleges with offers from ECU and Clemson.

Lazydawg, keep working at it

Not that anyone expects that it will get through some thick skulls, but thanks for your post, and don't let up. I started all this by saying "I HOPE Brian Taylor...",  (as vs. Brian Taylor WILL... ) which you seemed to pick up on, while others didn't.

Nor did I mention any other school, but somehow the "other" school's posters got their dander up.

And why wouldn't I "hope" that for Brian Taylor? Or anybody?

Just trying to take the high road, and just look at the vitriole that results!!! It's no wonder, with a certain rival fanbase frothing at the mouth at every little expression of Wolfpack joy, that carolina STATE fans are so passionate about their teams.

Sigh.

Really? I didn't know that...

...Hope you're sensing my sarcasm.  I'm just laughing at the comments people are making.  The same guys that are saying Carolina's program will come crashing down because of this investigation (extremely pessimistic) are the same ones who are predicting that a 2-star QB will thrive at State behind a totally unproven offensive line and currently non-existent running game (extremely optimistic).  See where I'm going with this?

hope!?

no one was expressing hope on your side!  they were implying ncsu took 2 stars and made them God's at QB while UNC's supposed great QB's aren't worth a darn.

state fans are quick to pull the ol card, "stars don't mean anything in recruiting" but it was just 4 yrs ago that you guys shoved it down UNC fans throats about how ya'll were getting the big names!

so my question is:  which one is it?  do you want the big names with the stars or do you want the P'sOS recruits and maybe one or two (players) play better than expected?

answer: depends on the team you field.

read my first sentence

Yes, gvillegatr, I clearly was "expressing hope", as stated explicitly in my first sentence.  I never even implied that carolina State "took 2 stars and made them God's".  Yet. (Although carolina STATE DID take 3 stars and Phillip Rivers became a god. Same with Roman Gabriel.) Only God knows what kind of player BT will be.

Can't a person just benignly express joy at one's school fetching a fine underestimated recruit without outsiders reading into it all sorts of baseless ulterior motives??  Geesh. Who ARE you people, anyway? Joyless tangles of frustration? I won't waste a second of my time trying to reason with you beyond clarifying my words that you twist like pretzels.

Whatever. I will try to finally go see Brian Taylor,  wearing my red-and-white, (unless, of course, the oppenents are in red). I have already seen Justin Burris play at Broughton.

You carolina STATE fans down by Wilmington show up to cheer Will Baumann. (You know, the cousin of another punter who excelled in BCS football). If you're near Kinston, show up to cheer Maurice Morgan. Find out their numbers and try to wear 'em. As the year passes, it will get more and more difficult to attend all the games as the recruiting haul grows.

Ahhh, great times to be a Pack fan. We'll soon put last year behind us (except for a game or two), and enjoy the good times that are due us. My season tickets look goooooood.

history lesson

"Can't a person just benignly express joy at one's school fetching a fine underestimated recruit without outsiders reading into it all sorts of baseless ulterior motives??"

one word: NOPE

neither schools fans allow it.  c'mon.  where have you been?

the bottom line, UNC didn't need this kid anymore.  Already have two recruits coming in better than this guy on paper along with Renner.  Even if he was the Chancellor's son, he wouldn't have signed with UNC at this point.  putting UNC's name by this kid just lets everyone else know the kid "ain't" half bad.

Getting back to the "paper" thing.  You guys used to boast and bellow about how y'all were getting the great recruits just a handful of years ago under CTC.  Now you cry and complain and try to convince anyone who lsitens that stars don't mean a damn thing as you point to one or two players who overcame!  congrats.  UNC has a $hit ton of big name recruits who lived up to their hype!

You guys can't have it both ways and this point was CLEARLY ignored in my earlier post.

Also, you guys love to boast about how TOB was putting a fence around the state (two short years ago) and that Butch had no repoirt with the local high school coaches.

funny, UNC has about six of the top 30 players locked up in the state for next season and you guys FINALLY (we think ... no verbal yet by this QB) got one the other night. 

off to the church house ...

P.S.

Herb just signed a 4 star PG for the Sun Devils!

 

a recruit vs a recruiting class

Gator - please. Don't preach. If you're going "off to the church house", you should pray for more insight and better information. If you're trying to referee the unc-ncsu schism, you're pathetic. Read my original post - it said nothing about any other team - only that i was happy about Brian Taylor.

It seems to bother you when carolina STATE does a little bragging, but I don't recall you ever get bothered when it is the other way around (the usual). Our bragging about recruiting, if you can call it that, is just taking a rare chance at giving the Heels a little of their own medicine.

Gator: "UNC has a $hit ton of big name recruits who lived up to their hype".

Oh? Lived up to what? Are you talking about football (like the rest of us)?You mean those phantom top-ten teams they have fielded the past 17 years since Mack Brown jilted them? The Heels are winning a couple games a year more than ncsu since TOB/BD arrived, (and none since Mack left) but Gator:"$hit ton of big name recruits who lived up their hype", you say? Huh?

You confuse our joy at getting a good recruit with something else - like rubbing a better recruiting class in the opponents noses, which is almost exclusively something that is done TO us, not BY us. Where is your concern for fairness THEN?

But Butch, like Mack, will go off to greener pastures in a few years.

 

It's official

Peetiepup is blogging under the influence.  At least I hope so.  Otherwise you're just a damn embarrasment to your program.

just a few examples

how bout the majority of the present defense and how bout our WR's from a couple of years back who are playing int he NFL. 

you still haven't answred my question. 

you just tried to spin it into a statement or another question back at me.  tired, tired act.

  everything I said was true.  of course, you and the rest oif the pupp fans disagree.  its about as worse as the shiites and the sunnis.  it'll go on forever.  why i even attmept b/c I know i'll never get a straight answer b/c the truth hurts ...

Gator - the paragon of truth?!

You are really a bulldog, gator, (gatedog?) but face it - none of us really care to answer the others' questions. We're just talking AT e/o, and trying to have fun at e/o expense. So please cease the "he STILL didn't answer my question" act.

Sunnis and Shiites? You said it right there. Anyone who things he can give a rival's fan a satisfactory answer is "under the influence". Do you really think YOU answer others' Q's impartially?

I like your posts, but even you admitted to "rum and coke" influence lately, or was that someone else?

Pack fans, now didn't I answer this guy's question? No profanity, insults, sarcasm (this time), nor any mention of another school (yet). The high road for me - again, it doesn't' pay.

Your first statement, makes my point.

You: "how bout the majority of the present defense and how bout our WR's from a couple of years back who are playing int he NFL?" (implying that they've really been HOT).

What greatness have they accomplished for UNC? Two wins per year more than the down-and-out Raleigh team, without a win over the Raleigh team or a sniff of the ACC title. Not very persuasive in making your point. Carolina barely makes a bowl while carolina STATE barely misses a bowl. Doesn't sound like a night and day difference.
This year is yet to play out for our teams, so let's get back with each other around Thanksgiving, ok?

BTW, who do you pull for? Your handle implies you pull for a certain school that I don't recall you mentioning. This is the first time I have noticed you refer to UNC in first person, as in "our WR's".

best, peetiepup.

i try to stay away from the

"we" and "our" references as I did not attend the university for the people and by the people. 

oh well.

I'm a Pirate, but a life long UNC fan.  Not too many disappointments in my lifetime on the collegiate sports front.

I despise the Florida Gayturds, but this was an old handle from a fantasy football team back in '98.  It has stuck.  Greenville Gators.  I just condensed it.  it poses many problems as I have to answer this question many, mnay times.

That was my rum and coke refernce. 

It was the weekend and I feel I am entitled to one or two drinks (maybe more some nights).  jpd and I have a good repoirt, but I was just showing him the courtesy of where the rant was coming from.  he knows I don't mean anything by my posts as you shouldn't either, but I do appreciate a question being answered when asked.  especially one where I continue to hear about how "stars don't mean anything."  thats total BS and a cop out. 

I never implied UNC's WR's were "hot" in the NFL, but that they were merely drafted.  Although, they were really hot in college.  The defensive guys were last year and will be this season as well. 

Those two wins that seperated ncsu and UNC meant the difference in a winning and losing season b/tn two teams as well as a bowl game and it has meant a tremendous amount on the recruiting trail in NC.

Just think had UNC won two more games than they did last year? they'd a been in the ACC Championship game and who knows maybe the OB playing Iowa.  See what two games mean.   A large amount.

I didn't realize it was a serioius Q

Oh! Gator, you want the following Q answered? To wit:

Gator: "so my question is:  which one is it?  do you want the big names with the stars or do you want the P'sOS recruits and maybe one or two (players) play better than expected?"

Ohhh, is that the question?

I didn't realize you were serious. It's not a very good or honest question. It seem rhetorical. But here goes.

My answer: OF COURSE I would rather get more of those big time recruits. But My statements didn't suggest I would rather have what you call "P'sOS" (hmm... berating? or just insulting?) instead of  big time recruits. I was merely remarking, as i have repeatedly tried to stress, that I am often impressed with TOB's ability to develop his recruits and recognize talent that others don't. Your question is largely irrelevant because you were attributing meaning in my words that weren't even implied.

What I am suggesting is that I want to get recruits that help the Pack win, not ones with lots of stars and NFL futures. I like finding bargains on the recruiting trail that help carolina STATE win. TOB has been doing and saying that since he started coaching Boston College. Go TOB!

so

ones (players) with lots of stars and nfl futures don't help their college teams win.

no comment.  i'll just let that sink for you and everyone else who reads this.

stars matter until...

...a recruit shows up on campus to play. Then everyone's on equal footing. Agreed?

Stars don't play football - people play football. Next year, for example, 4/5* Glennon will have to rely only on his talent to beat out 3* Brosius and 2/3* Taylor. His prep stars won't help him a bit. That's what I was saying, if you really read what i posted.

Then, when players get to the NFL, what they do in the NFL doesn't help their old college team win, either. Willie Parker, right?

I'll try to answer your questions more promptly now that i know it's so important to you, and maybe you can try to be more objective in replying. You don't mean anything? Neither, do i. Just trying to have a little fun. But it's annoying to have to explain the obvious to those who just want to spin things, only to get rude, fuming, innacurate retorts. Chat rooms - sigh.

I even agreed with you that stars matter (when evaluating recruiting classes), in answering your BIG Q you pestered me to answer. Still not 'nuf for you. Nope. You still badger me.

But it also matters that a coach can take a 2* recruit and he plays like he were a 3* when he leaves, and a 3* plays like a 4* when he leaves, etc... Amato, like Bunting, proved that the reverse can also be true. If you just read what I say w/o....

Thanks for helping to show that the lunatic fringe doesn't reside solely in Raleigh, as is so often pathetically claimed. Thanks for giving me another opp for a windy reply. I blaze on the keyboard.

equal footing?

thats like saying a 1st round and 7th round draft choice each have an equal chance to start!

the best players ALWAYS play and over the course of any amount of time (appparently the exception is at ncsu to hear you guys talk) it stands true.  investments and resources will see to it unless they are a complete bust.

why do you want to continue to argue the point? 

you know, it is funny you show up and yar8pack disappears.  you guys argue almost identically.  just sayin'.

Pfft

gaytr, don't confuse me for someone who won't lambast your silly self with the insults you richly deserve.

BTW, it's 'identical', not 'identically'. And no, peetiepup and I do not have similar writing styles. I know it's a bit tough for you to handle thinking sometimes, but you should really try it.

Now go back to your bandwagon. Toodles.

band wagon! lol

I was unaware I knew excalty what kind of tradition I was rooting for when I was five years old!? 

I tell ya one thing, theres nothing finer than being a Carolina fan!

Re: P.S.

Saw in the Cleveland news that one of Shawn Kemp's hundred or so kids didn't qualify to enroll at Auburn this fall. The article also mentioned that Luke Cothron was ruled ineligible this year as well. Thankfully, he chose not to sign with the Pack.

Off topic, but gatr gave me the opening I was looking for.  

Dang

That's an interesting turn in events.  It's weird to think, had Cothron kept his commitment with NCSU and the Wear twins announced their decision immediately following the season, maybe CJ Leslie would be wearing Carolina blue this coming season.  Obviously not a lock, but something to think about.

Ifs and buts

That keeps us going day after day on sites like this.

Anyway, Mama wanted CJ at NC State, so Roy never had a chance.

:-D

Thank goodness

Carolina was starting to show this guy some interest and I really didn't want him.  I already think it was a mistake to offer Tokoto, and Little Z was a questionable target as well.  Roy is a whole lot smarter than me and has a much better idea of what's going on, but I get nervous with these guys from the west coast.  We have had several elite players over the last half decade or so.  Of those, Marvin Williams is about the only one from the west who was successful.  Outside of him, we've had Quentin Thomas, Larry Drew II, Alex Stepheson, Deon Thompson, Travis Wear and David Wear all from that region.  See what I'm getting at?

anomaly

Coach Williams was so darn successful at recruiting those west coasters when he was at KU (Gooden, Collinson, Pierce jut to name a few), but he hasn't been worth a frack at UNC doing the same thing.  Crazy.

I'll give credit where it's due

Burris is an outstanding player and will be a big help for State.  He's not always the fastest guy on the field, but he loves contact and will be the most physical safety that NC State has had since Dajaun Morgan.  Definitely looking forward to seeing him play.

No this was about one

No this was about one player,BT that appears to be committing to play at NC State.  Heels jumps in badmouthing the recruit so people respond.  What else would you expect?  Taylor is a D1 recruit that had offers from three ACC schools regardless of the number of stars someone might want to put by their name.   But if the stars mean that much to you guys, actually rivals gives Taylor 3 stars, not 2.  Scout has him with 2 stars and ranked the #88 QB in the US.

Just sayin'

It's funny how State fans automatically assume he's going to be an amazing player.  Yeah, you have Rivers and Wilson in the past decade.  But what happened to Daniel Evans, Justin Burke, Michael Greco and Jay Davis?  It's easy to remember the names of those who succeeded.  How about the many more who didn't develop?

Justin Burke, Michael Greco

Justin Burke, Michael Greco and Jay Davis [don't forget Stone]

Ironic huh?  Those four, as well as Harrison Beck (a 5star, if you can believe it), were all ranked higher than Rivers and Wilson, which kind of circles back to the original point.

Evans doesn't really fit here.  Nothing was ever expected or even hoped of him.  When signed, most assumed he would only see the field in mop up duty.  He and his brother were more of a legacy deal than anything else.

The success he did have was a surprise, and a testiment to his hard work and dedication.  The kid did not have major FBS physical skills.  It was his intangibles and mind that allowed for him to have what success he did achieve.

Good post, keep 'em coming, TDid

Your posts always add something. Keep it up.

Was Evans ever a scholarship player? Both he n his brother started out as walk-ons, (adding more beef to the claim that carolina STATE recognizes 'diamonds in the rough').

But Beck was not recruited to carolina STATE as a 5* prospect. Rather, as a player that 3 years earlier was regarded as a 5* prospect. Big diff.

Thank you Evans for coming to carolina STATE! You are a winner in ways that some don't understand. But Pack family understands.
 

WTF

Daniel Evans came to State on scholarship.  Andrew Evans was later rewarded one.  Get your facts straight, moron.

Beck was not a 5-star, but a 4-star.  Only because he could throw the ball 80 yards.  Unfortunately, Nebraska and State both found out that passing distance means very little when the accuracy doesn't come within 20 yards of a receiver.  Good pick-up!

Easy does it!

Puhleez, 20! For heaven's sake. Don't you think your post was rather petty, as well as in violation of name-calling rules?

We're all entitled to our opinions, and e-x-c-u-s-e me if I was mistaken about Evans. Didn't I merely ask a question? (as vs. statement of fact?). And no one regarded Beck as a 4 or 5 star (depending on who you ask) recruit at the point he was picked up at the end of the recruiting year. Someone thought he was worth a shot, since TOB needed a backup QB, and thus carolina STATE fans had "hope" for him to come up big, as we should "hope" for (hope vs. expect).

Do you not read well, or do you read too fast to take it all in?

I must really be getting under your skin somehow. I just want to help you when I say that you are being a very poor representative of your school and you should take a sedative now.

Brian Taylor, it's easy to see why you chose carolina STATE. We're more level-headed, if 20 is representative of his population.

Around and around we go

"Someone thought he was worth a shot, since TOB needed a backup QB"

Amato brought in Beck, not TOB.

"I just want to help you when I say that you are being a very poor representative of your school"

No, you're trying to redirect attention in a pitiful attempt to disguise your lack of intelligence.  Time and time again you make posts with inaccurate information.  Even most State fans on here will admit that I am pretty objective and respectful of members of Wolfpack nation when they don't act like idiots.  Unfortunately, I don't tolerate stupid.  If you're going to post something with confidence, then make sure it's accurate.

Around and around we go

"Someone thought he was worth a shot, since TOB needed a backup QB"

Amato brought in Beck, not TOB.

"I just want to help you when I say that you are being a very poor representative of your school"

No, you're trying to redirect attention in a pitiful attempt to disguise your lack of intelligence.  Time and time again you make posts with inaccurate information.  Even most State fans on here will admit that I am pretty objective and respectful of members of Wolfpack nation when they don't act like idiots.  Unfortunately, I don't tolerate stupid.  If you're going to post something with confidence, then make sure it's accurate.

i believe mel gibson w/ an UNC fetish

called Harrison Beck a 5 star recruit.  a lot to sift through, though.

R and RW

Yes, but what did Rivers do and what has RW done? For the team that is? Fourth place in the ACC and a parade and 31 tds with few ints, pretty good, but for the team as a whole?

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