Thanks to everyone in their interest in the JP Top 25. There have been some good points made in the comments, mostly about Wake Forest or Washington
You can find the expanded version of my ballot here every week during the season, usually on Mondays. Please come back and add your two cents.
This is my fourth season voting for the AP and I enjoy the process and most of the feedback. That's why the poll was created in 1936, to create interest in the game.
My ballot doesn't always match up with the rest of my colleagues. That's fine. And since a portion of you revel in my faults (Louisville No. 1 in 2005), I'll take this opportunity to point out that I was the only AP voter to have BYU ranked in the preseason poll in 2006.
The Cougars went 11-2 and ended the season ranked No. 16. So maybe, the Washington pick — I'm the only voter with the Huskies on the ballot — isn't as crazy as some of you think.
The AP makes all 65 ballots public each week if you'd like to compare notes. The independent site Pollspeak.com also does an excellent job of keeping voters hones.
As for the official AP Top 25, here are a few votes that caught my eye:
• UNC received 14 points (note: a first-place vote equals 25 points, second-place 24 ... 25th-place one point). The Heels, coming off a 4-8 season, are attractive because of second-year coach Butch Davis and the weakness of the Coastal Division.
To my surprise, none of the Heels' points came from three voters in the Tar Heel state (WPTF's Taylor Zarzour and W-S Journal's Bill Cole are the other two).
Jon Wilner, of the San Jose Mercury News, ranked the Heels No. 17. John Silver, from the Journal Inquirer in Manchester, Conn., put UNC No. 23 and Eric Hansen, of the South Bend (Ind.) Tribune, ranked UNC No. 25.
• Virginia got four points, all from Marcus Fuller of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, who ranked UVa No. 22. I've enumerated Virginia's problems before but Fuller probably thinks I'm crazy for ranking Washington at No. 25, so to each his own.
• Pitt (85 points) edged out South Carolina (84) and Fresno State (83) for the 25th spot. Presumably, Pitt's No. 25 because it beat West Virginia in the 2007 season finale.
The Panthers might be ready to break out in Dave Wannstedt's fourth season, with 15 starters back, but it's a mistake to infer anything from a rivalry game.
The dynamics of a game between two teams that know each other — and don't like each other — skew how a team will preform against anyone else (think of Les Robinson's N.C. State basketball teams against UNC as an example).
• I don't get the love for Oregon (21). The Ducks closed the regular season with three straight losses without quarterback Dennis Dixon. Only a 253-yard performance from Jonathan Stewart in the bowl game ended that streak.
Last time I checked, Dixon's gone and so is Stewart. I think Oregon is in for a big fall.
• Old habits die hard, hence Michigan with 36 points, but at least my fellow voters are shaking their Notre Dame fix. The Irish received two points, five less than traditional power Tulsa.







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Sat, 12/05/2009 - 06:41 — direkfilmTo my surprise, none of the Heels' points came from three voters in the Tar Heel state (WPTF's Taylor Zarzour and W-S Journal's Bill Cole are the other two).
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Mon, 08/18/2008 - 23:39 — izzykareemso if they beat VT, they'll be 2 - 1 (if they get by McNeese State - go Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (That's their mascot in case you were wondering)). The only teams who will be in the top 25 with one loss will be teams who started out in the top 10. Then you're gonna lose your next three games, ND isn't gonna stink it up 2 years in a row coming off two top-5 recruiting classes. Then you might be favored at UVa. What do you think you'll be ranked if you beat them: 57th? maybe.
Take it from a long time wolfpacker and someone whose suffered thru the last 5 years for sure, its a rebuilding year, it will make it easier to take the losses.
Taylor ZarZar Ga Bor
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 21:11 — gvillegatrhere you go guys ... this is why I feel as strongly about ZarZar. get this guy out of ballot voting immediatley. a team that is projected to win the sec west doesnt get a vote in the top 25!!!
Paul Gattis, Huntsville Times: Taylor Zarzour, host of The Big Tailgate show on WPTF in Raleigh, describes himself as an "avid Alabama fan." Perhaps that explains why he left Auburn, which was picked to win the West Division of the Southeastern Conference, off his Associated Press ballot.
Don't waste you time trying
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 18:08 — Anonymous (not verified)Don't waste you time trying to reason with gvillegatr... read his words... he's obviously suffering from a small and biased mind... It's hilarious that any Tarheel fan would complain of even the hint of a media bias.
Theoretically, the Tarheels could go undefeated this year... but still, based on the performance of the team in recent years, and that of the individual players currently on the roster, any REASONABLE mind can understand why most would find the Tarheels unworthy of a preseason ranking.
Duh.
Idiots abound. He probably was an Edwards supporter.
why dont you read my last
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 20:57 — gvillegatrwhy dont you read my last paragraph where i said it didnt mean they were worthy of a top 25 ranking. I even said it after reading what JPG had to say.
i've given NCSU plenty of props and shots in the past. i'll give them to UNC when deserved and they dont deserve to be in the top 25. I was just simply explaining why the three guys who have the authority to pick the top 25 did not pick UNC. ZarZar won't rate UNC after they beat VT. bank on that.
if I've said it once, i've said it a thousand times ... you guys (or girls) who want to single handily call me out, sign up with the N&O and put a name down so we can keep score of both sides.
To my surprise, none of the
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 12:34 — gvillegatrTo my surprise, none of the Heels' points came from three voters in the Tar Heel state (WPTF's Taylor Zarzour and W-S Journal's Bill Cole are the other two).
1.) you went to NCSU so you are not going to give credit to the Heels unless they are a "no brainer" to be in the top 25. maybe next year ...
2.) Taylor ZarZar Ga Bour is from Alabama and knows the the Rivers family and in what little time I have heard him (he was on the Fayetteville station last year and has spent a little time on the PacMan show) he's never had anyhing good to say about UNC and ALWAYS has positive things to sya about NCSU. hes the only guy I heard who said Butch was a bad hire. yea right!!
3.) Bill Cole - hes from Winston Salem. no one outside of NCSU hates UNC more than Wake.
thats not saying they deserve to be in the top 25 or not. just giving you guys my thoughts and reasons. afterall, why else did you post this blog!!??
Gator
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 13:30 — jpg (author)You're certainly entitled to post your opinion but I wish you would expand your cubby-hole view of sportswriters.
Where you went to school doesn't solely define a person.
— JPG
yet you hav emade a couple
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 20:50 — gvillegatryet you hav emade a couple of back handed blogs concerning UNC ... especially in the headlines.
all i'm saying is, you will be less inclined to give UNC their props unless they are a definitive, legit top 25 team. it happens all over the USA to other universities as well. it all evens out. UNC doesnt deserve to be in the top 25, but they will be ... right after they beat a depleted VT team in Chapel Thrill.