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CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. – While coaching Providence in 1997, Pete Gillen famously said Duke is on TV more than “Leave it to Beaver” reruns.

That's why it seemed strange to hear Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski complaining Sunday night about the tone the media take toward the Blue Devils.

Following a 67-49 shellacking of Virginia – another team that Gillen once coached – Krzyzewski was asked if fifth-ranked Duke (25-4, 12-2 ACC) is flying "under the radar."

"I think over the years, after we've had some success, we are not talked about much when we're good," Krzyzewski said. "It’s only when we lose. So I don't think we're ever 'under the radar.' It's just that the radar only shows up when we get our butts beat."

Gillen’s statement remains true 13 years after he made it. Every Duke game except for the Nov. 21 meeting with Radford will be televised this season. The Blue Devils have 12 games on ESPN and have had three nationally televised CBS games. But Krzyzewski said it's only news when Duke loses.

"Believe me, I'm not a paranoid person," he said. "But I've just learned that over this last decade, that that kind of happens. People know who we are. We’re not a great team. We're a very good team but that's won a lot of games. Maybe that's why we haven't gotten that kind of recognition.

"We're not just going to go out on the court and, 'Wow, they're going to kill us. These guys are unbelievable.' We have to work together to make it happen. That's why I like my team so much, because they’ve done that all year long."

There is some validity to what Krzyzewski says. When you're Duke or Kentucky or UCLA, people expect you to be near the top of the college basketball world. By journalistic standards, that's called "dog bites man." That happens every day, so it's not considered big news.

When Duke, Kentucky or UCLA struggle, it falls into the category of "man bites dog." Because it defies expectations, it's considered news. Which brings us to North Carolina. The Tar Heels' precipitous fall from NCAA champions to a tie for last place in the ACC has captured the attention of the nation.

People are eager to determine what's wrong with North Carolina and whether the Tar Heels will be able to recover next season. Before the Duke-North Carolina game on Feb. 10, all sorts of broadcast outlets called to interview me to preview the game.

Invariably, the first question they asked wasn't about how Duke had climbed back to the top of the ACC. They wanted to know what was wrong with North Carolina.

Incredibly, the Tar Heels’ struggles have been so profound that Duke's excellent season has been overshadowed. The Blue Devils' lack of a win over a premier opponent has a little bit to do with that, too.

But if North Carolina were in the upper third of the ACC, Duke's resurgence might be getting a lot more play in the media. Still, there's one way for the Blue Devils to make sure they get lots of positive publicity.

If they can get to their first Final Four since 2004, it will be impossible to ignore them. The NCAA Tournament is the ultimate test of how a team is perceived. And if the Blue Devils win big there, the stage is so big that their accomplishments will be impossible to ignore.

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I know what this blog is all about. Just a arguing site for unc and state fans. If you aren't one of them you are not welcome here. Everything you say gets a critical response or a slam to your team or coach. So I don't have to post here and probably won't anymore. It's just sad people are like that. So keep your blog I can keep up with Duke news somewhere else. Go Duke, for the final time on this site.

totally untrue

you are as much welcomed here than I am or anyone else here.

the thing is, you are just in the minority and you ahve extremely thin skin.

to tell you the truth, everyone is in the minority to ncsu guys (here) over the duration of ACCNow.  It's just that alot of state posters don't come by as often as they used to.  draw your own conclusions as to why that is.

G-GATOR-RED-PUSSY-69

reason--- red-pussy-cat, ok, go duke!!!!!!!!!!!!! and above all what in the he-l would they have to talk about, losing??

foreverduke!

come on man, u got to develop a tough hide to put up with these holes and wulfpecker REDNECKS. DONT LET THEM RUN U OFF OF THIS SITE, I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP DOWN THE ROAD OK, GO DUKE!!

It seems...

...that you have a problem with any one who disagrees with you.  Not sure I've ever seen you praise any team other than Dook.

i love unc!!

 the whole country loves unc, that where all bb evolves from, no body else in the country even compares with the mighty"losing" tarholes, ok, they are great, wonderful, the best, only problem they cant win this year with all of those hardees all americans,ok, go duke!!  but we still love them "americas team"" now are u satisfied???

Just trash talk

These negative comments about DUKE are just trash talk from unc fans that can't take it that Duke is on top this year and their not. Just because unc is having a bad year dosen't mean the down fall of the ACC. I just love it when there are so many predictions about how DUKE will fair in the NCAA. You don't have a clue what they will do. Also, they won a national championship after Elton Brand left, with Battier, Boozer, Dunleavy, Williams, etc. So if you think they aren't athletic enough you don't know basketball. I don't make predictions but I can tell you this much DUKE has as much chance as anyone does in the NCAA. They haven't stayed at the top all season for no reason. Think what you want, I don't care, but I feel like they won't just dance they will BOOGIE! GO DUKE!

i'll sum this up in one snetence

you DO NOT have a Battier or a Boozer who can dominate the inside this year or in recent years.

Foreverduke

I understand supporting your team, but to say that somoene doesn't "know basketball" for implying that your team isn't athletic enough if laughable.  Dook would not be able to run with the likes of Kentucky, and I don't even think Kentucky will be a Final Four team.  And yes, there is a reason why Dook has stayed on top all year.  You haven't been consistently facing top talent.  You've faced a few teams that you could meet in the 2nd round (Maryland, VT, etc.), but everyone knows you live and die by the 3 and that's not what wins championships.  Kansas, Michigan State and even Texas have teams MUCH more fit to win it all.  Any way, continue on with your theory that we say this because we can't take it.  If I'm willing to praise Tracy Smith as much as I do, or say that Jon Scheyer is a top 3 player in the nation, there's no reason for me to say Dook won't make the Final Four for no reason.  But as I said, continue being delusional if that's your thing.

the problem is...

Battier, Boozer, Dunleavy, Williams, and Duhon > Singler, Scheyer, Smith, Thomas, and Zoubrick. 

If this year's duke team had the same calibur of players they did in 01 they would definately have a chance in march.  problem is, they dont.  they have basically the same package as last year and i don't remember seeing them in the final four, or even the elite 8 for that matter.

At least the Dookies will be

At least the Dookies will be in the field of 65, while the Wolfies and the Heels will have to scrape into the NIT if the selection committee has pity on each for pitiful seasons. After the tourney starts, none of the geniuses posting can predict what happens. But none of it will happen to the NIT wannabes.

it is the reality, no doubt

but history tells us what is going to happen to DUIke if they have an off game from the outside.

is that an untrue statement?

nit!!

what kind of coach goes on record saying he hopes his team makes the losers tour.ONLY A DESPERATE ONE, LIKE SKID, ok, goduke!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy it while it lasts

Nows their chance....Lets see if they can do anything with it...

Once in While

every defending NCAA Champion have fold after the spoils because everyone like the media is at your doorstep waiting for something to slip out..UNC won it all but don't have the recruitment players that they thought they recruited. It's a long story at UNC this year but the season isn't quite over yet. Duke have that hard and physical play on their side right know but it will cancel out with a lot of foul trouble in the NCAA Tournament. They really bullying around in the post this year..just knock you on your butt mentality. UNC Freshmen stood for themselves one time at Wake Forest in a crucial road game maybe a lesson was learn for Roy Williams and the young Heels for the next game..play the same way every game..let it fly at the right time....but make free throws...every one of them is valuable...!!!

yes

making more than 50% of ones FTs in a half would be a positive move

this

"If they (DUIke) can get to their first Final Four since 2004, it will be impossible to ignore them. The NCAA Tournament is the ultimate test of how a team is perceived. And if the Blue Devils win big there, the stage is so big that their accomplishments will be impossible to ignore."

DUIke's been pure T crap in the NCAA tourney the last 5 years.  embarassing, really. 

They are the ones who have been the laughing stock of the nation b/c across the nation fans do not see them as a threat anymore.  a "worthy" threat that is. 

if they can go deep this year, they will be talked about again.

 

your

comments in quotations? or someone elses? I agree however. 

not my quotes

it is the authors quote.  Tysiac, I believe.

As

all of you posters out there know we tried hard to help a certain poster with "its" vocabulary. WE FAILED!!!....True stupidity is impossible to correct....the only way to deal with "it" is to ignore "it" ....I must commend redcat for a creative and entertaining solution but the only real way to deal with this is to just ignore "it"

UNC-98-AKA LOSER!!!

redpussy-69 aka g-gator is going to really be pis-ed at u , he is really not that stupid, ok, go duke!!!

Like I said before, Duke's

Like I said before, Duke's "resurgence" has less to do with Duke taking a step forward than it does with everyone else in the ACC taking a step (or in the case of UNC a giant leap) back. When you lose guys like UNC's big 4, Tyrese Rice, McClinton, and others the level of competition in the ACC takes a hit. If Duke wants to make waves in the national media they should try beating a quality out of conference opponent.

p.s. whoever redcat69 is: well done sir.

CHRISMUNGER-1

REDCAT-69 AKA REDPUSSY-69 IS REALLY G-ALLIGATOR, OK, GO DUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POOCAT!!!

U R RIGHT I AM CLEARLY G-ALLIGATOR U MUST HAVE LEARNED THAT FROM THE NCSU FORENSICS TEAM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES SMART ENOUGH TOF IND THAT OUT OK GO STATE!!!!!!!!!!!

Duke

is ok this year but for those of us who have been around they are just that. OK. Not to say that K can't pull it off but I just don't think this is the year. I can't see any of the teams getting out of 16. Possibly Maryland because they get unusually streaky sometimes but no ACC team seems to be showing up this year....and by now one would see the train coming. I actually agree with Mamba's post that Duke relies to much on outside shooting and I don't think that can sustain you throughout the tournament.  

 

dook's is better only because UNC is terrible this year

that's it. this isn't one of the better dook teams when comparing them over the years. Had Carolina played up to their potential dook would once again be a second place team.
They've been exposed for what they are against QUALITY opponents.. average on the road and National Champions at home. Never been athletic enough to go deep in the tourney...not since Brand left. It must really suck knowing that the year that Carolina's down, dook won't be able to capitialize with a National Championship. Too bad they can't play all their games in Durham.

Are you serious?

Hey UNC fan,

Keep talking trash!!! Duke is better because they're a good team and, unc is just awful. Stop using excuses like " Had played up to their potential"  Guess what UNC will be near the bottom again next season. So start thinking of more excuses. Duke will make it past the sweet 16, and all of you guys can keep hating. Please don't forget to watch DUKE come tourney time, while poor little UNC is sitting home doing nothing.

 Go Duke!!!!!

Yes

of course we will continue to hate....its in our genetic code to hate Duke and I might add that the reverse is also true......you must be a freshman. UNC fans have been accused of delusions this year but your delusions are right up there with ours...I might add a footnote that Duke and Carolina have at least earned the right to be delusional given the unparalleled success of both programs. As for next year we will see. I will take Roy's record over K's for the decade.

unc-98 aka " the loser"

UNPARRELED SUCCESS?? HAVE U EVER HEARD OF UCLA AND KENTUCKY???  WHAT A DUMB A-S STATEMENT, OK, GO DUKE!!!!

POOTCAT!!!!

UCLA AND KENTUCKY HAVE STRUGGLED SINCE THE FIELD WAS INCREASED TO 65 U KNOW BUT IT DOESNT MATTER FOR DKUE BECAUSE THEY CANT MAKE IT PAST THE 3RD ROUND THEY SHOULD CANCEL THERE PROGRAM OK GO STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right on, missy!

Roy clearly has a history of failing and I'm sure Barnes, Bullock and Marshall will be total busts.  While I could spend 15 minutes ripping your posts to pieces, I will choose not to because the fact that you live in such a fantasy world as to believe that Dook will make it past the Sweet 16 and the Heels will be at the bottom next season is just cute.  Enjoy watching your boys fail with a false sense of hope!

marie 123!!

outstanding post, ok, go duke!!!!!!!!!

POOTCAT!!!!!

U WOULDNT KNOW IF A GOOD POST CAME UP AND PINCHED YOU ON THE BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YOU CANT EVEN READ LET ALONE SPELL U SHOULD COME TO STATE FOR OUR LIBERAL ARTS PROGRAM OK GO STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GALLIGATOR-REDPUSSY69

EVER NOTICE HOW OL --G WANTS TO BE JUST LIKE ME , WHEN HE GROWS UP?? GO DUKE!!!!!

POOTCAT!!!!

WHY WOULD HE WANT TO GO TO DKUE UNLESS HE WAS DOING A DOCUMENTARY ON HOW NOT TO BE COOL OK GO STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

G-GATOR--REDPUSSY-69

HAV U GUYS NOTICED WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY POST FROM G-ALLIGATOR, HE IS USING HIS ALAIS-- RED PUSSY-69NOW WATCH THE POST FROM G-GATOR START BACK UP, OK,GO DUKE THE ACC WINNER, NOT COW COLLEGE -THE LOSER.OK, GO DUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry to disappoint

Monday is my long day as we have meetings in the morning and then i'm out in the field dealing with clients the rest of the afternoon.

tell you the truth, i'd just soon not see either one of ya post. 

Good G..d

You mean someone actually works for a living????? on this board????

lol

I'm afraid so.  someone has to make sure the ACCNow bills get paid so we can have somewhere to fellowship! ;)

check out

Lowe NIT posts for some pertinent comments regarding "it"

yep

Been trying to pay the bills myself the past few weeks. Hard to justify spanking the BC monkey lately.

BLUETOOTHCAT!!!!!

U LOST TO STATE THAT MEANS WE ARE BETTER 88-74 SO A LOT BETTER, THE ONLY REASON U WON THE ACC WAS BECAUSE COACH K CHEATED REMEMBER HOW HE LEFT ARMY ON 4 YRS PROBATION OK GO STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed, I've been saying...

no ACC team has filled the vacuum left by UNC's temporary decline. Duke is good, but not National Championship great. No team in the ACC is.

unc-98 aka " the loser"

my girlfriend said she thought u looked really HOT in those duke blue tights last night at the game, keep cheering for the blue-devils, ok, go duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POOCAT!!!!!

IM SORRY TO HEAR U HAVE A GIRLFRIEND THOSE GIRLS AT DKUE HAVE MORE FACIAL HAIR THAN BRIAN ZOOPECKER, YOU NEED TO COME TO STATE AND GET YOURSELF A FINE GIRL LIKE BRANDI THE FINE GIRL OK GO STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DOOK lives or dies by the jumpshot.....

probably not a winning formula for very long in March madness.

.but some of their bigger guys are playing better..but the ACC is so woeful I don't know if that means anything....in mid/late March...

The Tar Holes have no shooters or backcourt and thus was the cornerstone of their Fall from Grace.

Awesome

Go Duke!

flameout

If duke reaches the final 4, this might be a story. Another flame out in the sweet 16. duke is duke , a good regular season team but has nothing left for the tourney.

Nicely done.

Agree, their lack of a win over a primier opponent is a factor and if they get to the final four, that indeed would be an accomplishment, but for many, still not impossible to ignore.

Here's one solution

Try advancing past the Sweet 16 for a change.

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About the blogger

Ken Tysiac has covered the ACC for The Charlotte Observer since 2003, and spent the previous eight years covering Clemson for the Anderson Independent-Mail and then The State in South Carolina. He grew up in Rochester, N.Y., and is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame.
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