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Miami (4-2) is the only Coastal Division team that controls its fate. The Canes win out and they go to Tampa on Dec. 6 for the ACC Championship Game.

UNC (3-3) can still win the Coastal division but they need major help.

There's no getting around that the Coastal division scenarios are complicated.

Remember, the first tie-breaker is head-to-head or group record if there is more than two teams tied. The second is division record and the third is "best" win in the division.

Duke (1-5) is the only Coastal team eliminated from the division race.

UNC

Conference record: 3-3
Division record: 2-2
Remaining schedule: N.C. State, @ Duke

1) Beat N.C. State and Duke
AND Miami beats GT, loses to State
AND VT loses once
AND UVa loses once

That would leave UNC and Miami tied at 5-3. UNC beat Miami 28-24 on Sept. 27.

2) Beat N.C. State and Duke
AND Miami loses twice
AND VT loses once
AND UVa loses once

That would leave UNC and GT tied at 5-3. UNC beat GT 28-7 on Nov. 8.

3) Beat N.C. State and Duke
AND Miami loses once
AND VT Tech loses once
AND UVa loses once

That would leave UNC, GT and Miami tied at 5-3. UNC has a 2-0 group record.

A loss eliminates UNC from the division.

Miami

Conference record: 4-2
Division record: 3-1
Remaining schedule: @ Georgia Tech (Thursday), @ N.C. State

1) Beat GT and N.C. State

At 6-2, Miami would finish one game ahead of any other team in the division.

2) Beat GT and one UNC loss

At 5-3, Miami would have the tie-breaker over any combination of UVa or VT.

3) Beat GT and lose to N.C. State
AND VT wins out
AND UNC wins out

That would create a three-way tie between Miami, UNC and VT at 5-3. Miami and VT would have the same division record (4-1). UNC's 3-2 division record would eliminate them.

Miami beat VT 16-14 on Nov. 13.

4) Beat GT, lose to State
AND UNC wins out
AND UVa wins out

That would create a three-way tie between Miami, UNC and UVa at 5-3. They would each have the same group (1-1) and division records (3-2).

That leaves "best" division win which would be Miami and UVa's win over fourth-place VT. UNC lost to VT, which leaves Miami and UVa.

Miami beat UVa 24-17 on Nov. 1.

Georgia Tech

Conference record: 4-3
Division record: 1-3
Remaining schedule: Miami (Thursday)

1) Beat Miami
AND VT loses once
AND UVa loses once
AND UNC loses once

That would leave GT 5-3, one game in front of the other teams in the division.

2) Beat Miami
AND Miami beats State
AND VT loses once
AND UVa loses once
AND UNC loses once

That would leave GT and Miami tied at 5-3 and GT would have the head-to-head tie-breaker.

GT would lose any multi-team tie-breaker based on its division record.

Virginia Tech

Conference record: 3-3
Division record: 2-1
Remaining schedule: Duke, Virginia

1) Beat Duke and UVa
AND Miami loses twice

That would leave VT at 5-3. The Hokies would hold the tie-breaker over any combination of UNC and GT.

2) Beat Duke and UVa
AND Miami loses to GT, beats State
AND UNC wins twice

That would create a four-way tie between VT, UNC, GT and Miami at 5-3.

VT and UNC would have the same group record (2-1) but Miami and GT would be eliminated with a 1-2 group record.

That would leave VT and UNC. VT beat UNC 20-17 on Sept. 20.

Virginia

Conference record: 3-3
Division record: 2-2
Remaining schedule: Clemson, @ Virginia Tech

1) Beat Clemson and VT
AND Miami loses twice

That would leave UVa at 5-3 and with a tie-breaker over any combination of UNC and GT.

2) Beat Clemson and VT
AND GT beats Miami
AND Miami beats State
AND UNC wins out

That would leave a four-way tie between UVa, UNC, GT and Miami at 5-3. UVa and UNC would have the same group record (2-1), eliminating Miami and GT.

That would leave UVa and UNC. UVa beat UNC 16-13 on Oct. 8.

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There is one additional scenario for VT and for Miami

After a discussion with Mr. Giglio, we've come to the conclusion that there are at least two additional scenarios.

Virginia Tech scenario 2 should read as follows:

2) Beat Duke and UVa
AND Miami loses to GT, beats State

2a) UNC wins twice. This is the scenario 2 written above.

2b) UNC loses at least once
That would create a three-way tie between VT, GT and Miami at 5-3. The three teams would have the same group record (1-1) but Virginia Tech would have the best division record (4-1).

So under this scenario, Virginia Tech does not care what UNC does.

Virginia does not benefit from an equivalent scenario 2b). If UVa beats Clemson and Virginia Tech, Miami loses to GT and beats State, and UNC loses a game, that would create a three-way tie between UVa, GT and Miami at 5-3. The three teams would have the same group record (1-1), but GT's 2-3 division record would eliminate them, giving Miami the division due to their win over UVa.

So...
Miami has one more scenario:

5) Lose to GT, beat State

AND UVa beats Clemson and Virginia Tech

AND UNC loses at least once

i hear ya

but the fact of the matter is, UNC did turn it around and was in position to win the Coastal. Poor QB decisions and a "gimme" kick pissed it away.

all three losses have been inexcusable. fact is, UNC ought to be undefeated. Toots was right.

IMO

winning out won't turn the frowns upside down.

Gvillegatr,

hey man! I know it's fun to dream of what could have been. I know I've done it in my own life. I also realize the live I've turned out having is pretty good in its own right. When the season started who actually thought 11-0? What about ACC Champions? Not very meany people I can remember (Except Tudor). Now they've got a real shot at 9-3 that's after last year and all those Bunting years. Right now it's NCSU, and next week Duke. Then it's an actual Bowl Game. The idea of that turns my frown over. Give it a try, buddy.

UNC had it all laid out for them..

like a grand buffet. They just had to win out. It didn't happen. Now the team must focus on an improving NCSU team. I can think of nothing better than a victory over NCSU to turn those frowns upside down.

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Joe Giglio covers the ACC for the News & Observer, where he has worked since 1997.
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