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The ACC publicly reprimanded basketball referee Karl Hess on Monday night for failing to follow protocol in ejecting two N.C. State basketball greats from Saturday's game at the RBC Center.

Hess had Chris Corchiani and Tom Gugliotta removed from their seats behind the scorers' table with 6 minutes and 40 seconds left in the Wolfpack's loss to Florida State on Saturday because of "excessive demonstration on several calls," according to an email N.C. State received from Hess on Monday night, via the ACC.

Under NCAA rules, the game official has to the right to eject fans who demonstrate "unruly or excessive" behavior but is supposed to notify the game-management official before making a decision. Hess had two Raleigh police officers and an arena security guard ask the two former players to leave, instead.

In the email to N.C. State, Hess wrote:

"They were ejected for excessive demonstration on several calls as they came right up to the scorer’s table. The policeman at the end of the FSU bench was warned that their continual excessive demonstration that incited the crowd would result in ejection.”

ACC commissioner John Swofford issued a statement on Monday night about Hess' role in the ejections.

"Karl Hess is one of the best on-court officials in college basketball, but the ACC has established a game management protocol, which allows the opportunity to potentially diffuse any situations before they reach the level of ejection," Swofford's statement read.

"This reprimand is a result of a failure to follow that protocol. We have to depend on our officials and their judgments; and the explanation from Karl Hess regarding this matter has been shared with the ACC and N.C. State University.”

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Mambo only comes

Mambo Strikes only comes out about 10 times a year. That's about how many times UNC loses in baskets and foosball - combined - per year.

OK. Now I have a dilemma

If the Heels go undefeated in basketball next year, then that means ...

Man, that's tempting.

Karl Hess hates Italian-Americans.

Ha !

In your wettest dreams, bro.

mammby-pammby!

has any one heard from mammby? any one know his where-abouts?  go duke!!!

Anybody listen to the wolf pack radio network this afternoon ?

So Adam Gold said he knows some ticket holders that were sitting around The Corchianin's and Googs. One of them told Adam that they were thinking to themselves that those two guys are gonna get thrown out of here before this game is over. They were giving the refs the business every time they came to the scorers table.

Know your role when you are nc state royalty, fellas. Leave all the BS to us simpleton fans. Show some class while in attendance. With all the perks comes extra responsibility. I guarantee you zip your lips tonight unless you are cheering in a positive way.

g-alligator aka red pussy!

have u ever considered switching to DECAF?

Cite

Cite actual names and sources or it didnt happen. We could all randomly knew someone there. Shoot, I saw Karl Hess(ian) while I was at lunch.

Typical

I can't cite a fricking radio show like tracking down a quote in a paper. You think I'm the only one who listens to the radio show ? Not to mention it came form the nc state show as Max calls it.

ACC OFFICIALS

As a 1976 graduate from NCSU I assure you that the bigotry is against NCSU.  Always has been, always will be.

msussii!!!

sorry about your bad luck, go DUKE!!!

My Explanation

We've heard from Corch and Googs.  We've gotten corroborating statements from people who were around them.  None of what has been presented shows that ejection of these two was warranted.

So we're all left to guess what reason Karl Hess had for ejecting them.  Neither he or the ACC has offered a valid explanation for why two ACC legends were tossed out of an arena in which their jerseys hang in honor.  Many will speculate that they said something profane, vulgar, or threatening.  Corch's and Goog's very character has been unfairly impugned and the ACC will do nothing to confirm or refute that they did anything wrong.  Karl Hess's judgement in deciding to eject them was never in question though.  The ACC fully supports his position that they deserved to be ejected.  They maintain that he just didn't follow the proper procedures in doing so.

Well, with the lack of explanation provided by the ACC, I'm left to come to my own conclusion.  I conclude that Karl Hess is bigotted toward Italian-Americans and that John Swofford is either too mortified by this bigotry to air it out or shares that bigotry as well.  Karl saw an opportunity to publicly embarrass two high-profile Italian-Americans and gleefully took advantage of it.  This ethnic hatred is shameful, Karl, absolutely shameful.  You should be ashamed as well, John.

What's that?  There's no evidence that Karl Hess hates Italian-Americans?  There's just as much evidence of that as there is that Chris and Tom did something bad enough to get kicked out of a basketball game.

Italian Americans ?

I was unaware Great Googlimooti was plural here as Corchiani is Cubano American for the folks who are PC. I personally call both of them American bc they were born in America.

careful

Having married into an Italian-American family many years ago, I too have kept my natural bigotry quiet.

Two reasons for that:

  1. I didn't want to give my father-in-law any reason to have me whacked.
  2. I love my mother-in-law's cooking.

Lol

I'm pretty sure Karl likes Italian cuisine too.  He just stiffs the waitress whenever he eats at an Italian restaurant.  Or so I've heard.

stiff-one!!

what is wrong with stiffing a waitress, espically if she is good looking??? go bluedevils!!!!

Karl Hess reprimand--Way TOO little, way TOO late!

Sorry Swofford, you're just drinking your own Kool aid now!  Karl Hess is one of the WORST officials to ever have donned a whistle and striped shirt.  His character flaws always show up when he lets his thin skin and short temper ruin his judgement on the court.  Just like cops that should never have been given a badge and gun due to serious flaws that prevent their ability to "protect and SERVE", Hess should never have been allowed to call his first game.  Retire him NOW and show the rest of the country that the ACC IS the best league in the country!  As a diehard UNC grad, I want to say "Thank you!" to NCSU for standing up for their fans and speaking out against Hess so that the ACC and Swofford HAD to do something, weak as it was!

Still waiting on responses from max and Open "Yar" Mike

Sadly, they want to continue the "black helicopter" theme that has long been a tired act. They don't want to answer questions asked by others bc it wrecks everything they are whining about and it stands in their way of the "truth."

Some wuffies want to go to another conference. Theres been more of a ground swell since saturday than ever. Ok

Little Sisters of the Poor Conference

1.) nc state
2.) South Carolina
3.) aTm
4.) Colorado
5.) Nebraska
6.) Mizzou
7.) Pittsburgh
8.) WVa
9.) Rutgers
10.) UCant
11.) Syracuse
12.) Natti

These are all clown schools who think the grass is/will be greener on the other side or feel/felt like a red headed step child while in original conference. In just about every instance the vast majority of schools would be more competitive in original conference.

Right now, state would be no better than 7th in football and 6th in baskets.

Let me go ahead and pre-empt the "idiot" responses: that conference doesn't even exist ! #overyourhead

I say it from time to time on here and will say it again ... I am so thankful to have chosen the UNC Tarheels to root for as a child. I can't imagine how easier my life has been.

Nelson

Aww. Playing your fav Willie Nelson tune for lil ol' me. Thanks.

BTW, it's Tar Heels, not "Tarheels." Don't expect a self-professed bandwagoner like you to know that.

Hey gville

Join John's parade for Karl!

Oh, and we're thankful you root for the Heels too, little fella!

Ha !

It just makes me feel all good inside when someone takes the time out of their day to personalize a post for little 'ol me.

What Questions?

What questions do you need help with?  (Other than making up new discussions when you original ones fall through - new random conference?  ha. really?)

Right on

OpenMike, wish you had been posting more comments over the years!

ACC

Most of the other comments on this article were pretty well thought out.  This is not.  This is completely off topic and unwarranted.  State fans that want to leave the ACC are in the minority and in my opinion, completely reactionary to recent minor issues (in the grand scheme of things).  State will not leave.  State will improve and soon dominate in basketball like we have started to in football.  Soccer is on the rise.  Swimming and diving produced an Olympian.  Cross country is nationally regarded.  NCSU will be the flagship of the state (if not already) and ACC. 

Who am I dealing with ?!

Did you really just state you guys were on the verge of DOMINATING FOOTBALL ?!?! Did you really bring swimming and diving into the conversation ? Soccer is ON THE RISE. My-Lanta ! Someone contact the Sears Cup and let them know OpenMike said to look out !! Lol.

And my post was well thought out. It's jut not what you wanted to hear. Tell me, at the core, what was wrong with my post ? All schools stated have left or want to leave bc they don't feel wanted and/or money. You guys fall into the "and" or the "or" category.

Baffled I have to explain this...

Article is about ACC reprimanding Hess for the recent ejections at the NCSU v FSU basketball game.  And you come to the conclusion that 12 random schools from all over the country should form a new conference?  ...Therefore, not well thought out.  I'd say wait until its an actual discussion or (gasp), article on that topic, but I doubt you could wait that long to continually change the subject to a made-up thought in your foot.

thought out?

Huh? Soon dominate in BB like you have started to in FB? Exactly what year do you think this is? Flagship of the state (if not already)? Please, get a grip dude.

Numbers don't lie

5-0 in football.

Nationally ranked #7 2012 bball recruiting class with one more top 10 player coming soon.

The tide is changing, you might as well ride it out this year while you can Mr. Surfer.  -- see what i did there :) :)

Still not real clear ...

I guess you are saying that because in FB, you have beaten the Flagship School in the State of NC for the past 5 years that your dominating the ACC in FB? And they've won how many in Division away games recently? How many winning seasons in the past 5 years? Uh, if your saying that the BB is gonna step it up to the level of FB, then that actually might be going in the opposite direction than MG seems to have the program going.

openmike

IS STUPID!!!go duke flafship of the ACC..

your headline is totally misleading

Hess was NOT reprimanded for ejecting Tom and Chris; he was reprimanded for not following protocol! A totally different situation. As stated above, he might as well have been given a bonus by the ACC comm office.. "they came right up to the scorer's table"? Hey dolt, they were sitting directly behind the scorer's table!! If they stood up the were within a few feet of the scorer!  Do we now have to not stand if we are within 5 feet of the scorer? If this was so bad, why didn't the scorer complain? Look at a TV replay of the game..... There was nothing unusual about their behavior. A total whitewash by the ACC powers that be!!

Excellsive demonstration?

"They were ejected for excessive demonstration on several calls as they came right up to the scorer’s table. The policeman at the end of the FSU bench was warned that their continual excessive demonstration that incited the crowd would result in ejection.”

What a crock of an explanation. The were sitting right behind the score's table. It wasn't hard for them to be there. This statement could be reason to eject nearly ever ticketholder at any game in the ACC. And, I doubt that the two men's actions incited anyone. In fact, Hess' actions did more to incite the matter than those who probably couldn't see or hear the two former players.

You can bet that everywhere Hess goes from here on out will result in his "rabbit ears" being tested. I'd hate to be him in the future.

Read more here: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/acc-reprimands-hess-for-ejections-at-nc-state#storylink=cpy

Hess will reap the State Fan

Hess will reap the State Fan Excessive Demonstration Whirlwind from now on out.

 

The ACC had better hire more cops...er....hall monitors.

vitruvian-bear!!

another classless cow college fan!!!

more proof that elementary

more proof that elementary school kids shouldn't be given iphones.

Blue gnat isn't in

Blue gnat isn't in elementary school anymore.  They kick you out after you turn 14...

mad-sax!!

i am attending duke medical school, not elementry school, i am studying to be a proctologists, for cow college fans that is a rear end specialists when i get out i will give mad -sax a free exam, because we all know he is an ass-hole, ok go duke!!!!

State Fan Comments are so funny!

Ok State fans, stop making yourselves look like complete loonies with your comments.   Funny stuff.  

Mirror mirror

We take a page from UNC fan's playbook and suddenly we are loonies?

Somebody spell this out for me...

Let's say I'm sitting in the stands.  I paid for my ticket.  Some guy in a black and white striped shirt points at me and tells me to leave.  Why can't I just stay where I am, and keep watching?  If I stayed, what law would I have broken?  I paid for the ticket.  The last I checked, the City of Raleigh doesn't have an ordinance against yelling at a referee.

I know that the NCAA has rules.  But, so what?  I'm not an athlete governed by the NCAA.  

Excessive Demonstration

I'm fully confident that the ACC will uniformly apply their standard of excessive celebration across all the member venues.  Therefore, I expect Cameron Indoor Stadium to be empty by the first TV timeout at Duke's next home game.  I also believe in the Easter Bunny, even if Karl Hess stole his ears.

There are two sets of standards in this conference.  One for the blues and another for everyone else.

Umm, did I miss something???

Umm, did I miss something??? Where does it say what the reprimand was? This article did nothing but try to show why Hess was justified??  How come the other refs didn't notice this misconduct?

Screw The ACC

 I wish we could get in the SEC and out from under the bluebellies like swofford. I hate the man. Hess had no reason to be worrying about fans complaining of nocalls. That is what fans do at games. It was wrong to single former players out that were not disrupting the game.

otis

state would be a door mat in the sec , just like they are a door mat in the acc, remember coach gotfired was fired by alabama for not getting enough Ws.

Not a State fan, but without

Not a State fan, but without a better explanation than what was given, a suspension is clearly warranted here. I'm reminded of Jim Valvano talking about getting a technical because the official felt Valvano "showed him up" and Valvano's response was "you think all these people are here to see you"? Any time an official is the focus of attention, that is not a good thing.

Swofford to the rescue

Reprimand, Reprimand, the man should be fired and banned from Raleigh, NC.  But good ole Swofford came to the rescue.  Let me see, played football at unc, was AD at unc, now ACC commission.  Wonder where his  allegiance lies???  Truth be known, Swofford is probably sending Hess a bonus check.  How about this proposition, ACC changes bylaws so that no one affiliated with a member school can be commissioner.  Let's start that policy now and fire Swofford, and maybe he can take Hess with him and they both can go back to unc!

"Excessive demonstration"?

Congratulations, Karl Hess and John Swofford.  You've virtually guaranteed a disproportionate response to this incident with your non-response.  You haven't seen excessive demonstration yet, but you sure will tomorrow night.  I hope you're there, John, to reap what you've sown.

Not only is Hess not suspended, but he gets an attboy from Johnny in his statement.  I'm surprised he didn't throw a parade.  Here's a float for both of you:

Can we eject both of these clowns now?

Dude

I couldn't have said it better.

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Joe Giglio covers the ACC for the News & Observer, where he has worked since 1997.
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